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#141 Ron

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:50 PM

I was hoping for a good punch line...

Let's go for it

How does a Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

There are no solipsists, they're merely a figment of your imagination.

How does a Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

What's a solipsist? A solipsist for you may not be a solipsist for me...

How does a Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

They don't have to, they don't exist because reality does not exist.

How was that? Do I get a drum roll or a cane dragging me off the stage? :lol:

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Ba-dum-dum- CRASH!!!!! :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:03 PM

Ba-dum-dum- CRASH!!!!!  :rolleyes:

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Thank you, thank you very much.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:56 PM

Thank you, thank you very much.

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Adam...... Has just left the building :lol:







:rolleyes:

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 07:41 PM

I was hoping for a good punch line...

Let's go for it

How does a Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

There are no solipsists, they're merely a figment of your imagination.

How does a Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

What's a solipsist? A solipsist for you may not be a solipsist for me...

How does a Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

They don't have to, they don't exist because reality does not exist.

How was that? Do I get a drum roll or a cane dragging me off the stage? :rolleyes:

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Oh that sense - I get it now.

He follows a simple rule: asphalt-to-concrete - engage; concrete-to-asphalt - disengage.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 05:48 AM

How does the Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

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I'm sorry CTD, I totally forgot about you question. Was this a retorical question, or were you really asking?

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 10:30 AM

I'm sorry CTD, I totally forgot about you question. Was this a retorical question, or were you really asking?

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I'm pretty sure that was a rhetorical question, but for the Solipsist doesn't need to remember to be one. For the solipsist it is ingrained that they are all that there is. Its like asking how a person remembers to breathe.


ps wow a thread this thread has laid dormant for so long, I wonder if this will get more people interested in the topic again?

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 10:47 AM

I'm pretty sure that was a rhetorical question, but for the Solipsist doesn't need to remember to be one.  For the solipsist it is ingrained that they are all that there is.  Its like asking how a person remembers to breathe.
ps wow a thread this thread has laid dormant for so long, I wonder if this will get more people interested in the topic again?

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I hope so, because it can be an interesting topic.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 01:12 PM

I hope so, because it can be an interesting topic.

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It can be a very interesting topic and it also has implications in other worldviews that tote relativism as a viable 'foundation'.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 04:30 PM

It can be a very interesting topic and it also has implications in other worldviews that tote relativism as a viable 'foundation'.

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Wait a minute! Is there any viable conversation to be had if God was a Solipsist? I mean how would it be possible to disprove that claim?

Any takers? I'm gonna let this stew around in my head for a while, but just so the ball gets rolling I'm taking the stance that God is a Solipsist and we are all in his imagination.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 04:37 PM

ow does the Solipsist remember to be a Solipsist?

I'm sorry CTD, I totally forgot about you question. Was this a retorical question, or were you really asking?

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I was pointing out the requirement, by way of a question. Reality's just gonna keep comin' on, so the instant a solipsist forgets to deny reality he's out of business. Then again, if he practically applies his silliness at the wrong time it's game over too!

#151 Ron

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 05:17 PM

Wait a minute!  Is there any viable conversation to be had if God was a Solipsist?  I mean how would it be possible to disprove that claim? 

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Here's an idea, poke yourself in the eye with a needle. And when you holler, I'll witness your pain and confirm your existence. And we can put the whole thing to rest! :lol:

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 01:32 AM

Wait a minute!  Is there any viable conversation to be had if God was a Solipsist?  I mean how would it be possible to disprove that claim? 

Any takers?  I'm gonna let this stew around in my head for a while, but just so the ball gets rolling I'm taking the stance that God is a Solipsist and we are all in his imagination.

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I can see the cleverness of this question. <_<

The thing that we would have to deal with is the actual power of God's solipsism to actually allow us to experience consciousness. ;)

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 03:05 PM

I can see the cleverness of this question. :huh:

The thing that we would have to deal with is the actual power of God's solipsism to actually allow us to experience consciousness:lol:

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:D That was too much!

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 08:12 PM

I can see the cleverness of this question. :)

The thing that we would have to deal with is the actual power of God's solipsism to actually allow us to experience consciousness.  :o

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But if a being of infinite power was to imagine the universe then it would be entirely possible for each 'creature' within his imagination to have its own consciousness.

So we are back at square one. This all could be in God's imagination. But what would cause things like polution and sin? Why would we have to build things? How could we be slowly damaging the world we are creating?

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 03:14 AM

But if a being of infinite power was to imagine the universe then it would be entirely possible for each 'creature' within his imagination to have its own consciousness. 

So we are back at square one.  This all could be in God's imagination.  But what would cause things like polution and sin?  Why would we have to build things?  How could we be slowly damaging the world we are creating?

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Or, its not His imagination and all of this is real :o

Anyway, it wouldn't be Solipsism if the creatures had their own imaginations. Keep within the definition :) So we really are back at square one. The unreal (or non-actuation) of Solipsism.

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 04:31 AM

Or, its not His imagination and all of this is real  :lol:


Yes yes all this could Be real :lol:

Anyway, it wouldn't be Solipsism if the creatures had their own imaginations. Keep within the definition  :lol:  So we really are back at square one. The unreal (or  non-actuation) of Solipsism.

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Maybe I am mis-understanding something about Solipsism. If someone was a solipsist, then what would stop their 'imaginings' to have thought for themselves? Does the solipsist actually just assume that everything is going through its motions? Or does the Solipsist assume that there is some intelligence behind the movements and actions of his 'imaginings'?

Sorry for my confusion :)

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 04:45 AM

Yes yes all this could Be real :lol:

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And, since we can empirically prove that this is reality, the probability of Solipsism falls by the way-side.




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