So once again, Java, you are confirming what we've been saying all along. Atheism as a position, a perspective, as a belief (or unbelief if it suits you), or as a foundational epistemology, has no positive claims. It is, by its very nature, only capable of arguing from the negative. You seem to understand this in essence, based on your own arguments, but for some odd reason you are hesitant to acknowledge the plain truth of it.
I do apologize if it has seemed that I was trying to not admit something. I guess my main contention is the usage of epistemology. Not that you are using it wrong, but that after reading up on it a little on wiki that it seems to be a lot of hogwash.
Its the theory of knowledge, but then it starts getting mucked up with faith and beliefs. These are not things you know, or know to be true. These are things you hope are true.
I view knowledge as information that I can possible use. I guess I have never really thought about the how's and why's I know the things that I do.
When you finally see it, I hope you start to consider what it is that you actually believe because atheism is incapable of supplying this answer. When you are ready we can fire up this thread again:
I think I will politely decline on starting up this thread again. It seems that there is a lot of negative energy still in that topic that I do not want to be involved in. If there is anything that you would like me to respond to I will be more than happy too, but I really didn't see anything that I found to be of interest.
If you said that you were a materialist or a philosophical naturalist, and were willing to defend the position, we could have a thread where you defend the ideology that only matter exists which has the implication that there never was, or is, or ever will be an immaterial personal or impersonal creator. At the end of the day you know as well as we do that you would have to intellectually back peddle to the position of an agnostic which itself is an irrational position incapable of making positive claims.
Hi Adam, I would like you to meet someone. Me!
I'm sorry but I don't put labels on myself unless at the time they fit. I feel that once you start putting labels on yourself that you are limiting yourself in some significant way.
I do not know enough about these philosophies to talk about, or to assume that the discussion would lead somewhere. Maybe it will be more productive to ask questions about what I believe and we can go from there?