Incorrect, Ã¢â‚¬Å“before anything can be invented the simplest of tools need to beÃ¢â‚¬Â invented/discovered by the user. Not invented by scientists/advocates in an attempt to Ã¢â‚¬Å“proveÃ¢â‚¬Â a Ã¢â‚¬Å“naturalisticÃ¢â‚¬Â explanation at all costs.
Exactly where in my previous sentence did you see me state these tools were or had to be invented by scientists/advocates? My exact quote like you quoted was "Before anything can be invented the simplest of tools need to be in place before hand." This is saying that the tools have to be found/invented before any other steps can be accomplished which means that these animals are only in the beginning stages of invention.
Incorrect again, Ã¢â‚¬Å“as a consequence of being theÃ¢â‚¬Â only ones Ã¢â‚¬Å“to achieve mastery over toolsÃ¢â‚¬Â design, logic, mathematics, etcÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ Which itself begs the question Ã¢â‚¬Å“where is the evolution answer?
I showed you examples of tool use, yet you ignore them and say they are not? We have this mastery because of our intellect, which is our only advantage in this world. Other animals are now discovering how to make tools, and how to use tools. I don't know what the evolutionary answer is, but I can tell you we are NOT the only animals making and using tools, we are not the only animals mastering tool usage, but we are the only animals to have mastered tools to a high degree. This does not mean we are the "only ones to achieve mastery over tools". That sir, is incorrect.
Case in pointÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ Where did the tools and equipment come from (or provided by)? From the scientists/advocates of course, not the rooks. And what makes this so amazing is the actual confession Ã¢â‚¬Å“This finding is remarkable because rooks do not appear to use tools in the wildÃ¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ This experiment is nothing more than a modification of PavlovÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s experiments. Kind of knocks the stuffing right out of that model.
So when I provide you with this link that completely discredits what you say will you agree that it is both observed in the wild and in captivity, or will you hand waive that away as well? The first link I gave was one month prior, this link is Jan of 2010.Rooks being observed using tools in the WILD with no intervention from SCIENTISTS
And, after millions of years of supposed evolution, this is the best chimps can do? Poke a stick at food? My children mastered the skill in infancy (and grew past it shortly thereafter. This is complete and total pawnage, by the humans, over the chimps (of epic proportions) on the presumed-evolutionary scale.
So you think that the first ones to cross the finish line of tool mastery causes all of the other runners to quit and walk away?
My dog letÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s me know when sheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hungry, and when she need to go out. And thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s no evidence that has changed much in the history of k-9Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s. There is also no evidence that monkeys have done other than minor adaptation over that time as well.
If you can disprove this evidence then you would win a nobel.
Also: where did the music come from? This question answers itself (and the monkeys arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the answer). Also, appreciation is an assumed and presupposed definition in this case. Did you ask the monkey if it appreciated the music? Or are you assuming so?
You really aren't even reading the links are you? I'm going to assume that because the answers to your questions were in the provided links. If I was wrong that you didn't read them then it is safe to say you didn't understand the data.
Did the Clostridium botulinum bacterium invent this capability, or is it simply inherent in its genome? And how many of these Clostridium botulinum bacterium have access to fifteen pounds of the botulinum toxin, and show the intelligence and will to use it to wipe out humanity.
This post was to show you that it does not require an intelligent force to wipe out all humanity. If 15 lbs sounds like to large of a number for this creature to produce how about this number, 1 millionth of a gram; this will kill 1 person. The plague almost completely destroyed the European population, but it was halted due to observation. It does not take a very intelligent organism to kill all of humanity.
Wow, Ã¢â‚¬Å“six types of alert callsÃ¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬Â¦. How does that compare to the multitude of human languages (both dead, and still in use today?) Again, the complete and total superiority of the human race shines through once again.
I'm at a loss of words to the arrogance here. Six type of alert calls combined with SYNTAX creates SENTENCES that have MEANING about the environment around them. For someone who is so in love with god's creations you seem to have the lowest regard for them.