I believe believer's will spend eternity in heaven.
So you are saying believers don't spend eternity in heaven? Can't you see the inconsistency your view causes?
"For this we are saying to you by the word of the Lord, that we, the living, who are surviving to the presence of the Lord, should by no means outstrip those who are put to repose, for the Lord Himself will be descending from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the Chief Messenger, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall be rising first. Thereupon we, the living who are surviving, shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And thus shall we always be together with the Lord. So that, console one another with these words." (1 Thess. 4:15-18)
"Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching." (1 Timothy 4:9-11)
Because you are claiming that child molesters, murders, thieves, etc who die unrepentant will share heaven with the rest of us.
"... our Saviour, God, Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:4)
"Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all."(1 Corinthians 15:28)
"As it was through one offense for all mankind for condemnation, thus also it is through one just award for all mankind for lifeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ justifying. For even as, through the disobedience of the one man the many [descendants] were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, the [same] many shall be constituted righteous." (Romans 5:18,19)
"As in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified.
The last enemy is being abolished: death. For He subjects all under His feet. Now whenever He may be saying that all is subject, it is evident that it is outside of Him Who subjects all to Him. Now, whenever all may be subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also shall be subjected to Him Who subjects all to Him, that God may be All in all." (1 Corinthians 15:22,26-28)
"God locks up all together in stubbornness, that He should be merciful to all." (Romans 11:32)
"For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation that the creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God." (Romans 8:20,21)
I agree that "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul;"? I don't see how this implies that God will not save all mankind.
What value is Psalms 19:7: "The law of the LORD [is] perfect, converting the soul;"? From your POV, this verse is meaningless - anything unlawful is meaningless, hence, you unwittingly put good and evil on equal footing as far as salvation goes (Isaiah 5:20).
"What, then, shall we declare? That we may be persisting in sin that grace should be increasing? May it not be coming to that! We, who died to sin, how shall we still be living in it? Or are you ignorant that whoever are baptized into Christ Jesus, are baptized into His death? We, then, were entombed together with Him through baptism into death, that, even as Christ was roused from among the dead through the glory of the Father, thus we also should be walking in newness of life. For if we have become planted together in the likeness of His death, nevertheless we shall be of the resurrection also, knowing this, that our old humanity was crucified together with Him, that the body of Sin may be nullified, for us by no means to be still slaving for Sin, for one who dies has been justified from Sin." (Romans 6:1-7)
Why should anyone worry about raping, murdering, stealing, if they are still going to be saved?
"What, then? Are we privileged? Undoubtedly not, for we previously charge both Jews and Greeks to be all under sin, according as it is written, that "Not one is just" -- not even one. Not one is understanding. Not one is seeking out God. "All avoid Him: at the same time they were useless. Not one is doing kindness: there is not even one!" (Romans 3:9-12)
"Yet law came in by the way, that the offense should be increasing. Yet where sin increases, grace superexceeds, that, even as Sin reigns in death, thus Grace also should be reigning through righteousness, for life eonian, through Jesus Christ, our Lord." (Romans 5:20,21)
"What, then, shall we be declaring? Not that there is injustice with God? May it not be coming to that!
For to Moses He is saying, "I shall be merciful to whomever I may be merciful, and I shall be pitying whomever I may be pitying."
Consequently, then, it is not of him who is willing, nor of him who is racing, but of God, the Merciful.
For the scripture is saying to Pharaoh that "For this selfsame thing I rouse you up, so that I should be displaying in you My power, and so that My name should be published in the entire earth."
Consequently, then, to whom He will, He is merciful, yet whom He will, He is hardening.
You will be protesting to me, then, "Why, then, is He still blaming? for who has withstood His intention?"
O man! who are you, to be sure, who are answering again to God? That which is molded will not protest to the molder, "Why do you make me thus?"
Or has not the potter the right over the clay, out of the same kneading to make one vessel, indeed, for honor, yet one for dishonor?
Now if God, wanting to display His indignation and to make His powerful doings known, carries, with much patience, the vessels of indignation, adapted for destruction, it is that He should also be making known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He makes ready before for glory -- us, whom He calls also, not only out of the Jews, but out of the nations also." (Romans 9:14-24)
I'm working on a video about creation and the scripture right now to show to my friends and relatives. I care about my salvation more than anything there is to care about.
As I said earlier, this is a demonic doctrine to get people to not only not witness, but also to not care about salvation.
"For in grace, through faith, are you saved, and this is not out of you; it is God's approach present, not of works, lest anyone should be boasting.
For His achievement are we, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them." (Ephesians 2:8-10)
"Yet where sin increases, grace superexceeds,..." (Romans 5:20)
Yours is a ticket to do anything you want, since it doesn't matter in the end.
Why would I want to sin (not saying I don't and am perfect) when I know that Christ died to give me this freedom?
I am using the Concordant Version.
Go to BlueLetterBible.com and look up the Greek for this phrase, and also compare and contrast between versions. Even the most liberal, pro-Calvinist translators agree this should be translated "desires" or "wants", not "wills".
We'd have to get to the Greek word itself and then look at all the instances where that word occurs in scripture to find its true meaning, but if we did that, I believe "wills" would be the proper translation and it goes along with the fact that, God is "operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,..." (Ephesians 1:11)
God does not need to desire or wish for something. He operates all according to the counsel of his will. He makes whatever happens happen. He is the supreme subjector and placer of all.
I don't know everything these groups teach. I've heard Mormons believe Adam is god and that one day they will become a god. I've heard JW's believe Jesus was an angel. These groups have many wrong doctrines and I don't say that all of mine are correct. The best way to tell what is the truth is to read the scriptures in their original languages and find out what every word means by comparing all of their instances in the scripture.
How is what you are doing any different than JWs or Mormons who find a verse that contradicts their view, and then make up their own definition of the word(s) of that verse, in spite of what the experts in that language say (often with no ax to grind since they are not believers)?
Finally, in reading through your posts, you seem to hang your hat mostly on 1 Tim 4:10 (I love the way AFJ stated it - your misinterpretation has led to systematic error).
I believe this verse just says it most plainly. Many other verses say the same thing.
So you agree with me! The fact that not all men will presently believe in his death, entombment, and resurrection, does not mean that they won't eventually and that God is not the savior of all mankind.
I agree Jesus is the Savior of all men, but not all men will accept this!
This affecting farewell closes His mission to the holy city. If they will not have Him, He must leave them exposed to the powers of darkness. With Him the Presence leaves the temple tenantless. Its empty grandeur continues for forty years and is then laid level with the dust.
How does the following verse fit in your theology:
(Matt23:37 [NKJV]) "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers herchicks under her[size="2"] wings, but you were not willing!