He thinks that Entropy has shifting units: grams (which denotes mass), and gallons (which denotes volume).
And I referred to such a conclusion by Iguana as idiocy. Entropy is the measure of the disorder of a system. I NEVER stated what you claim that I did. Example: a piece of paper has mass. Paper burns. The entropy is found in the amount of paper that is consumed in ounces or grams, etc.. The same with gasoline. It has volume, of course, but that is not THE measurement of entropy. The entropy is in HOW MUCH gasoline has been burned in terms of ounces, gallons, liters, etc. But it would seem to me that an educated person would understand this.
And even worse, he got this from a page that displas...
What does 'displas' mean?
Why don't you try reading things more carefully? Why don't you even try to be honest?
I quoted the 'correct units' because that is what I meant to begin with and that is what I have taught.
Quote: Premium gasoline produces 1.23×108 J of heat per gallon when it is burned at a temperature of approximately 400ºC (although the amount can vary with the fuel mixture). If the car's engine is 25.0% efficient, three-fourths of that heat is expelled into the air, typically at 20.0ºC.
How much clearer do I have to be?
I'll say it plainly, driewerf: if your mind had not been ruined by Orwellianized neo-Darwinist dogma then you wouldn't have any problem grasping what I said. That was scrambled eggs thinking, fella.
But he has done worse. He has maintained, against all evidence that entropy is a force.
Is this a joke? Are you really that ignorant of this matter? Entropy IS a force...according to your own comrades in evolution:
Entropic force (Wikipedia)
Quote: In physics, an entropic force acting in a system is a phenomenological force resulting from the entire system's statistical tendency to increase its entropy, rather than from a particular underlying microscopic force.
And here is the equation for it: In the canonical ensemble, the entropic force associated to a macrostate partition is given by:
where is the temperature, is the entropy associated to the macrostate and is the present macrostate.
Here is another source that tells us the same thing:
Entropy, as expressed by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, is an all pervasive natural force, similar in importance to gravity or electro- magnetism.
And here is yet another:
We have define energy as the driving force for changes, entropy is also a driving force for physical and chemical changes (reactions).
But to put the icing on the cake:
"Entropy is more than an abstract quantity but can result in measurable forces which can lead to surprising effects, e.g. that the amount of order can be increased when the entropy of the system rises."
So how many sources from those on your side of the debate must I give you before you realize the mistake you just made?
The truth is, driewerf, that you don't know what you're talking about and you would do well to check out of EFF for a good year or so and re-study these issues from a different persepective. You were taught wrongly and you need to come to understand that. I would recommend Creation Ministries International, for it has a great deal of scientific technical papers that would help you in such matters.
Three times I asked him to simply post the units of force and entropy.
Concerning what? Solids, liquids, or gases? You didn't specify. Nor did you specify whether you wanted an answer in the form of an equation or merely a definition.
We can apply the second law of thermodynamics to chemical reactions by noting that the entropy of a system is a state function that is directly proportional to the disorder of the system.(i.e. WHATEVER that system consists of: solids, liquids, or gases)
Ssys > 0 implies that the system becomes more disordered during the reaction. Ssys < 0 implies that the system becomes less disordered during the reaction.
Three times he refused with the lame excuse that I had to do my homework myself.
And that guy claims to have been teaching thermodynamics and entropy for 26 years...
It was an empty challenge to begin with! Why should I have to take your little pop quizz to prove what I know about entropy?