Goku: I know I've said it before, but I have debated racists in the past, and in my experience racists tend to be creationists not evolutionists. When I went to the white nationalist forum Stormfront, perhaps the most popular racist internet site in the world which includes neo-Nazi and KKK members, I was told evolution was a lie. Those who have lived in the American South might recall the phrase "the mark of Cain" to describe black people as a Biblical justification for their racism. The infamous racist organization the KKK is a self proclaimed "Christian" organization, and while I am not sure if they have an official or unofficial stance on evolution today, I do know in the early 1900's (think Scopes trial) the KKK advocated creationism in public schools.
Yes, but again you are repeating a P.R.A.T.T yet again. (a point refuted a thousand times).
It is obvious to intelligent people (and so I assume is obvious to you) that if someone argues a position yet that position contradicts what they claim, then they are not really of that position but their motives are obviously to ABUSE the authority of scripture.
There is no argument for racism that would work, because the bible has hundreds of pages of scripture and none of them condone or even mention the colour of skin in a derogatory way. We also stem from two people, and all people groups come from them.
we don't have to go into why their arguments are wrong, because only unintelligent people can't see why they are wrong. To argue as to why those KKK arguments are wrong would be like arguing as to why Hitler was wrong. It is absurd for you to expect me to be put in that position just because people make the CLAIM they are Christian-creationist.
You must surely be able to see the difference between a genuine, bible-believing creationist like us here at EFF, and people who are simply racists, but at heart they don't believe anything, they are just wicked people.
You are basically just arguing a modern form of, "witch burners were Christian".
No - they weren't. I know it seems unfair because they went by that name, but what exactly did the peacable actions of Christ show? "if you love me, you will obey me". (everyone in Europe during witch-burning were associated with Christianity in some way, every one of the population in some cases, at some time, were either classed as catholic or protestant, and there was no real atheism in those times, but do you seriously believe that made all people practicing Christians that genuinely believe the gospel message and fearfully obeyed Christ?) MY GOODNESS Goku!!!!
You have to show where Jesus said black people are worth less that other people if you want to support the KKK's argument. Jesus who went to the samaritan woman at the well, when it was at that time that Jews and Samaritans would not so much as talk to each other because of prejudice. Jesus did not agree with any of the silly things that come from men's wicked hearts. he also said, "the things which are highly esteemed with men, are an abomination to God".
Goku: the American South might recall the phrase "the mark of Cain" to describe black people as a Biblical justification for their racism. The infamous racist organization the KKK is a self proclaimed "Christian" organization
So do you agree with their argument? If you don't agree with their argument and we agree they were wrong, and can show they were wrong provably, then that proves that their actions contradict the Christian bible. I think you would have to have a very intense case of retardation to not realise that they opportunistically USED the "mark of Cain" as a way of trying to FORCE-FIT racism into the bible, but nothing in those passages implies anything about skin colour. This is one of those argues that are so silly that even if the argument was true it still wouldn't justify racism. When Jonah came out of the whale his skin was coloured by the things he was exposed to in the whale, so the people repented. If God uses something out-of-the-ordinary, to scare people, then God is using the fact that people fear that which is out of the ordinary. He gave Cain some kind of scar, like a large birth-mark, and it would make simple people of that time, shun him. Even so, how would that mean that black people are to blame? I mean I almost laugh out loud, because it is so obvious they are force-fitting their racism into the bible here, with a desperate attempt to justify it.
You used the correct word, "justification". I think you're smart enough to see that all types of wicked organisations don't really follow Christ's message and seek, "good will to all men". Since black men are "all men" I am sorry Goku, but these arguments do not prove any genuine Christian connection.
Your ad-nauseam P.R.A.T.T is basically the argument that, "if someone says they are X they are".
If that is a sound argument, then we would have to let all prisoners that plead innocence, go free and would have had to let Ted Bundy go free because he pleaded innocence. (Reductio Ad Absurdum).