The problem is you're forgetting that a computer also contains intelligent design, meaning the true reason and the true cause of the programs actions, are the intelligent designers of the computer. I can admit the cell, "does things" on it's own, but that's just a sign of a more sophisticated intelligent designer.
maybe, maybe not.
the concept you are describing above is the "information" that must be accounted for concerning abiogegesis.
the so called "control program".
i agree, it's highly unlikely such a thing happened haphazardly, but science must assume that it did.
how do you think we have come this far without assuming otherwise?
anyway, there are still things undiscovered with the cell, there must certainly be a "molecular language".
not only the basic atomic makeup, but the size and shapes of these things also play a role.
i have no idea how ATP synthase could have evolved, but i find it a remarkable design that man apparently never thought of.
kind of compares with the 2 pounds of e. coli DNA doesn't it?
Can you show me a computer that invented itself? This is the problem - if the intelligence and design is coming from cells, then what created the cells and where does the intelligent design in the cells come from?
like i mentioned before, this is the "information" that must be accounted for concerning abiogenesis, the "control program"
the cell isn't "intellgent", it's the control program that makes it appear so, just like the programs on your computer.
what matters (or should) to science is how this stuff works, and it's getting a pretty good handle on it.
but it pushes the question of origins straight into the stratosphere, there is simply no way this stuff co evolved, and it had to.
I'd say it's built in. I believe the epigenetics is dormant information God has put there in case of severe environmental changes. (contingency planning). I don't think the design in the cell is being designed by the cell because first the cell has to exist. If a cell doesn't exist to begin with then what created the cell? It seems you are saying a cell that did not yet exist, created the cell. Although I know you entertain the possibility that life itself is somehow eternal or some such thing, with no beginning?
yes, life could be "eternal" in the sense of some weird quantuum space warp time disturbance
but, let's stay a little closer to rationality
science has no answers for how life got here, don't forget, koonin said it would be a "seeming miracle"
I'm not saying these things to insult you, I know you're free to believe what you will and I don't mock people, I just think you're sacrificing the best explanation because you don't like the idea that God exists because of things like hell and judgement, which you have expressed disdain for.
wrong, very wrong.
i'm interested in how this stuff works, you know, evolution.
how it all came together in the first place is the question that needs answered, not evolution proper.
well, there are questions that still need answered but i believe science is well on its way to answering them.
and some of those answers are going to upset a few people.