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#1 Mike Summers

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Posted 23 July 2017 - 02:49 PM

The problem with evolution
From Dinsaur to bird

There is an old Chinese proverb that says a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. That is the premise that evolutionists have seized upon.

It seems a bunch of small steps can result in great complexity. But can complexity really happen without intelligence in the mix? And would the random reultant complexity be the kind of complexity evolution needs to design the bird?

We know there are numerous differennces between the dinosaur and the bird. Our view today (we have birds) is of course in hind sight. Because of that it is easy for us to imagine the dinosaur transitioning to a bird as we have a clear goal for our mind to seize upon. We have both a starting point (the dinosaur) and a finishing point (a bird). It is if all we have to do is traverse the numerous small steps from the dinosaur to the bird and unfortunately in our mind it is a straight line. Similarly, if we know where Chicago (the dinosaur) is and New York (the bird) is then we can reasonably plot a journey of small steps between the two destinations.

But the bird, according to evilutionary theory, was not a destination that evo embraced as evo is not concious nor does it have a goal. With that in mind evolution becomes intutively confusing. To go from a dinosaur to a bird by small steps it would seem that those steps must consistantly be in the same direction. That's the way it is in the real world when for example we build a building!

Would the constant change in directions caused by the randome mutation process acually end up in anything functional let a lone a bird that actually flys?



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 03:52 PM

The problem with evolution
From Dinsaur to bird

There is an old Chinese proverb that says a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. That is the premise that evolutionists have seized upon.

It seems a bunch of small steps can result in great complexity. But can complexity really happen without intelligence in the mix? And would the random reultant complexity be the kind of complexity evolution needs to design the bird?

We know there are numerous differennces between the dinosaur and the bird. Our view today (we have birds) is of course in hind sight. Because of that it is easy for us to imagine the dinosaur transitioning to a bird as we have a clear goal for our mind to seize upon. We have both a starting point (the dinosaur) and a finishing point (a bird). It is if all we have to do is traverse the numerous small steps from the dinosaur to the bird and unfortunately in our mind it is a straight line. Similarly, if we know where Chicago (the dinosaur) is and New York (the bird) is then we can reasonably plot a journey of small steps between the two destinations.

But the bird, according to evilutionary theory, was not a destination that evo embraced as evo is not concious nor does it have a goal. With that in mind evolution becomes intutively confusing. To go from a dinosaur to a bird by small steps it would seem that those steps must consistantly be in the same direction. That's the way it is in the real world when for example we build a building!

Would the constant change in directions caused by the randome mutation process acually end up in anything functional let a lone a bird that actually flys?

The steps don't need all be in the same direction. 

 

When we put up a building, there are almost always changes that need to be made.



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 04:20 PM

Piasan said:

The steps don't need all be in the same direction.

Look at a dinosaur and look at a bird. There are a lot of steps from a dinosaur to a bird. What are the things birds have evolved they don't need?

To get to the bird the majority of those steps have to proceed towards a functioning bird. I can't honestly think of anything on a bird that is extranious. What are the misteps in bird evo? Where is the evidence of misteps? In other words what are the things a bird has that it does not need? Like all the plants and and animals the bird seems perfectly engineed for birdom!

When we put up a building, there are almost always changes that need to be made.


But look at the subject of your sentence. You used "we". We are intelligent. Evo is not! If you are building a 20 story building one does not reverse and start building a five floor apartment, reverse again ad start building a car. LOL



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Posted 23 July 2017 - 05:40 PM

the evidence is clear, evolution DOES NOT proceed by "small steps".
there is no evidence at all that says macroevolution happens by a series of small steps.

koonin (among others) spells it out bluntly and plainly.
all animal phyla (body plans) arrived here radially from eukaryote super groups leaving no ancestors.

the trouble with evolution?
internet shills such as "doctor" richard arrowsmith.
i'm sending you home in a handbasket if you ever show up here.
i'll be honest, you should be prosecuted for fraud to fullest extent possible.




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