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#1 dad

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 03:33 PM

That is not possible today. Perhaps the nature was different. Plants do not grow as fast today, for example, the trees planted in Eden, or the trees and plants regrown after the flood. Perhaps nature was different then, that would explain it.



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Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:37 PM

That is not possible today. Perhaps the nature was different. Plants do not grow as fast today, for example, the trees planted in Eden, or the trees and plants regrown after the flood. Perhaps nature was different then, that would explain it.

 

OK then....enough said....



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Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:59 PM

 

That is not possible today. Perhaps the nature was different. Plants do not grow as fast today, for example, the trees planted in Eden, or the trees and plants regrown after the flood. Perhaps nature was different then, that would explain it.

 

OK then....enough said....

 

Unless you wanted to claim there was a same nature in the past  and that you had evidence for this...yes. Science doesn't know.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 04:28 AM

That is not possible today. Perhaps the nature was different. Plants do not grow as fast today, for example, the trees planted in Eden, or the trees and plants regrown after the flood. Perhaps nature was different then, that would explain it.

 
OK then....enough said....


Not necessarily.... Maybe people should pay attention to the Bible more... They might learn something..


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:08 AM

 

 

That is not possible today. Perhaps the nature was different. Plants do not grow as fast today, for example, the trees planted in Eden, or the trees and plants regrown after the flood. Perhaps nature was different then, that would explain it.

OK then....enough said....

Unless you wanted to claim there was a same nature in the past  and that you had evidence for this...yes. Science doesn't know.

We do have evidence the laws of nature in the past were the same as today.  The evidence comes from astronomy.  When we look at distant objects, what we see is what was taking place at the time and place light left the object we're looking at.

 

Do you have any evidence the natural laws changed in the past?

 

That evidence confirms the laws of nature haven't changed in billions of years.



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:39 AM

 

 

 

That is not possible today. Perhaps the nature was different. Plants do not grow as fast today, for example, the trees planted in Eden, or the trees and plants regrown after the flood. Perhaps nature was different then, that would explain it.

OK then....enough said....

Unless you wanted to claim there was a same nature in the past  and that you had evidence for this...yes. Science doesn't know.

We do have evidence the laws of nature in the past were the same as today.  The evidence comes from astronomy.  When we look at distant objects, what we see is what was taking place at the time and place light left the object we're looking at.

 

Do you have any evidence the natural laws changed in the past?

 

That evidence confirms the laws of nature haven't changed in billions of years.

 

 

 

"We do have evidence the laws of nature in the past were the same as today."

 

Then why do you believe that what we Observe (Empirical Science) to be VITAL ORGANS today

Were NOT VITAL Organs "Long ago anf far away into the nebulousphere of the Darwinian Science

Fiction Novel...

 

REMEMBER??

 

If UCA for all flora and fauna were to somehow be true, and If we slowly go back in time, Our "Ancestor(s)" would,

at some point, have 9 Interdependent vital organs, then 8, then 7, then 6 5 4 3 2...THE MATH IS NOT HARD HERE!.

 

http://evolutionfair...accidentalists/

 

 

 

"When we look at distant objects, what we see is what was taking place at the time and place light left the object we're looking at."

 

NOPE

 

"When we look at distant objects, what we see is what APPEARS TO US TO BE what was taking place at the time and place light left the object we're looking at."

 

 

REMEMBER??  

 

 

GOD SAID IT OVER 15 TIMES.. MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO HIM AS HE WAS THERE AND YOU WERENT!!  :kaffeetrinker: 

 

 

The Lord has 
“Stretched the Heavens” 
Since Creation Week
 
http://wwwcreationis...tretched_en.htm

 

Since Creation Week (6 days, 6,000 years ago) the heavens have expanded. The Bible consistently uses the term “stretching the heavens” a total of 17 times!

NOTE: The Hebrew word for “bowed/stretched” is (natah), shown at: 
http://cf.blueletter...186&Version=kjv

 

Very few Bible instructions or commandments are repeated more than two or three times.  Most teachings are given only once, in fact.  (Almost nothing is repeated more than 4 or 5 times.)  Thus - it is very interesting (and speaks directly to our modern times!) that the phrase:  "The Lord has stretched [or bowed] the Heavens..." is stated in Scripture an incredible 17 times!

 

    Here are the 17 Bible verses:

2 Samuel 22:10 “He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.”

Job 9:8 “Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.”

Job 26:7 “He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”

Job 37:18 “Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?”

Psalm 18:9 “He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.”

Psalm 104:2 “Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain.”

Psalm 144:5 “Bow thy heavens, O LORD, and come down: touch the mountains, and they shall smoke.”

Isaiah 40:22 “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.”

Isaiah 42:5 “Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein.”

Isaiah 44:24 “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.”

Isaiah 45:12 “I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.”

Isaiah 48:13 “Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.”

Isaiah 51:13 “And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?”

Jeremiah 10:12 “He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.”

Jeremiah 51:15 “He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.”

Ezekiel 1:22 “And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the color of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.”

Zechariah 12:1 “The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.” 
 

Distant starlight makes sense now, doesn't it? The whole universe has been stretched! Dimensional folding, like curtains above. The Bible has been right all along. No "static universe" out there. The former “Steady State theory" for the universe was unbiblical, and therefore in error. The scientists were wrong about science - again! Whenever the Bible and the scientists disagree … just give the scientists more time.


Here is more information about science, discussing how the Lord "bowed--stretched the Heavens":  
“The Nature of Cosmic Reality: Stretching the Heavens” http://www.khouse.or...icles/1999/245/

 

Time after time - we see the Holy Bible's account of ancient history 
and our universe consistent, and confirmed by science and by logic.

Also see:  Evidence for a Young World
                       by D. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D.



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Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:12 AM

 

We do have evidence the laws of nature in the past were the same as today. 

Then why do you believe that what we Observe (Empirical Science) to be VITAL ORGANS today

Were NOT VITAL Organs "Long ago anf far away into the nebulousphere of the Darwinian Science

Fiction Novel...

 

REMEMBER??

 

If UCA for all flora and fauna were to somehow be true, and If we slowly go back in time, Our "Ancestor(s)" would,

at some point, have 9 Interdependent vital organs, then 8, then 7, then 6 5 4 3 2...THE MATH IS NOT HARD HERE!.

 

http://evolutionfair...accidentalists/

Yes, I remember your straw man argument based on IC.  IC was debunked decades ago with the deconstruction of Behe's "irreducible" mousetrap.  That's why I've expended little effort in addressing it.

 

 

The evidence comes from astronomy.  When we look at distant objects, what we see is what was taking place at the time and place light left the object we're looking at.

Do you have any evidence the natural laws changed in the past?

 

That evidence confirms the laws of nature haven't changed in billions of years.

NOPE

 

"When we look at distant objects, what we see is what APPEARS TO US TO BE what was taking place at the time and place light left the object we're looking at."

That would mean when we see such events as Sn1987a, what we see didn't really take place and the star Sanduleak 69-202 which had been observed and catalogued never really existed.  In other words, some 99.99999999+% of what we observe in the universe is merely an illusion.

 

I realize you have no problem with virtually all of God's creation being nothing more than a lie, but His Bible is still literally true despite millennia of handling by fallible humans ..... but I'm simply incapable of the mental contortions necessary to reach that conclusion.

 

I've asked this before and you never responded ......   If God's creation is a lie, how can you trust the Bible?

 

 

REMEMBER??  

 

 

GOD SAID IT OVER 15 TIMES.. MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO HIM AS HE WAS THERE AND YOU WERENT!!  :kaffeetrinker: 

Yeah, you've posted this a few dozen times too.

 

What you have never done is explain why such (nearby) astronomical objects as Sn1987a (167,000 ly) and Andromeda (2.4 million ly) show no evidence of their light being stretched.  Sn1987a should show a stretch factor of about 18x and Andromeda should be 400x.

 

Note:  God "inserting photons" doesn't work philosophically or theologically due to the deception issue mentioned above.






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