Evolution May Be Wrong, But Even Then How Do You Know That Creationism Is True?

[driewerf 30]

God by definition is the uncaused first cause, by definion is omni-powerful, timeless, immaterial etc...

It's not because we have a denition about something, that that something exists. We have a definition of centaurs, yet there are no centaurs.

We can formulate a definition about the christian god, does that mean that god exists?

Its the same with the definition of gilbo12345 is linked to having red hair and an Australian accent... We don't need to assume that gilbo12345 has red hair or has an Australian accent since this are a part of the definition of gilbo12345, they are inherent with who he is... The same can be said with God and His properties, its who He is, so there only needs to be one assumption on the part of Creationists, that God exists, that is it.

 

[Seeker25 0]

I am interested in what makes creationists believe in what they believe. What do you think is the strongest support for your world view? I quess many of you would say that the Bible is. This makes sense for someone who already believes that the Bible is true. But what about people like me, who don't really know what to think of the Bible. What do you think is the strongest support for creationism that anyone should be able to see?

 

For example anyone can see patterns in nature. But why do you think there has to be a creator, let alone an allmighty God behind them? The argument I often hear is "well can you think of any other reason for these patterns?", but I don't find it very convincing. Like what if the patterns were created by some ancient demi god that has since left this world? Or what if the patterns are just result of some complex but still undiscovered natural process? Not being able to think such process doesn't really mean that it can't be there.

"Not being able to think of homemorphism isn't enough to show that two spaces aren't homeomorphic", to quote my math teacher.

1. You don't have to believe the bible. Historians treat the bible just like any other ancient text. The bible is not a single book, it is a collection of books that comes from different sources. Whether the bible is inspired or not it depends on the person.

 

2. Your argument for a demi god can still apply to any monotheistic God. Unless you want to get down to the details that would require a different argument.

 

3. How do you distinguish something that is natural process vs complex?