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#1 Quaker Reason

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:42 PM

Skip to 9:30 if you want to see him make a fool of himself.



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:30 PM

Not only there. Before 6:00 he denies that Evolution presumes random mutations to be the creative behind it.

At 6:40 he denies that atheism can be used to justify killing people. This is simply being ignorant of 20th history in which most people were violently put to death by Communists or people working for them. And atheism was at the core of that ideology, especially the historical materialism was used to justify killing people. Because if people are just the result of chemical processes, what's wrong with terminating these chemical purposes, if they are deviant from their historical purpose (to bring about the new man and a classless society).

And that's another important point. Atheists can kill or commit atrocities and it's not in conflict with any teachings of their religion, they don't have to make exception. Religious fanatics usually have to come up with some exceptional license to kill, that entitles them to do so, despite what their religion teaches them otherwise.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 11:45 PM

The full video debate can be found on the internet. The guy debating with Dawkins also makes this point about Communism.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 05:51 AM

They usually then evade that Communist murders were political and that the atheism didn't play a role. But not all Common property movements do kill, that's a special brand of Marxism-Leninism and yes it's linked to their religious views:
http://www.schwarzre...communism-kills

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:48 PM

How exactly did he make a fool out of himself at 9:30... I didn't see it, he stumbled for a second looking for a word but so what?

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 07:08 AM

Also, the question about having faith in his wife, faith is not required when you have evidence to backup your belief. He has evidence of her fidelity and evidence of her love, he doesn't need to have faith in either of those things, nor does anyone unless they have evidence to the contrary. If your wife has cheated on you a dozen times yet you still believe she won't do it again then you do need faith to have that belief, because it is not supported by the evidence.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 11:18 AM

Also, the question about having faith in his wife, faith is not required when you have evidence to backup your belief. He has evidence of her fidelity and evidence of her love, he doesn't need to have faith in either of those things, nor does anyone unless they have evidence to the contrary. If your wife has cheated on you a dozen times yet you still believe she won't do it again then you do need faith to have that belief, because it is not supported by the evidence.


That is exactly the point that John Lennox is making in this video. He is refuting Dawkins statement, "we only need to use the world faith when there isn't any evidence". He had already explained just before that, that a belief in Christianity is based on experiences and scientific, and historical evidence. He put his foot in his mouth by making the above statement.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:49 PM

How is he making a fool of himself exactly?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:08 AM

How is he making a fool of himself exactly?


Isn't it obvious????

Dawkins is advocating scientific evidence and trying to attack faith.

What scientific evidence does he have that anyone, let alone his wife, really loves him?

I'll leave it to you to prove his case.. scientifically.




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