
Scale Of The Universe?
#1
Posted 09 February 2012 - 04:57 AM
I saw it for the first time in an apologetics presentation (I doubt the Huang's intended it for that). But the quesiton is: explain, usings empirical evidence, form a materialists world-view, where all of this came from!
There are a great many other questions an atheistic materialist has great difficulties with as well!
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#2
Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:19 AM
I'll say this though, atheists can rest assured that if the Large Hadron Collider recreates the expansion of our universe the atheists will have .1 seconds to gloat before it's all over.
#3
Posted 09 February 2012 - 11:13 AM
Nah, just kidding, it goes way beyond anything you can fit in your head. In fact, after scrolling and scolling and srolling your head starts to hurt.
I've got a question that perhaps someone can explain to someone like me who is no good at physics or astronomy. I heard somewhere that according to the Big Bang theory, the universe doesn't have a center. But wouldn't it have a center if everything was supposed to blow up out of that little dot somewhere.

Now, I don't believe in the BBT but I just wanted to understand it a little better.
#4
Posted 09 February 2012 - 11:23 AM
#5
Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:39 PM
i cant see the link.
You mouse over the picture inside the picture and click on that.
#6
Posted 09 February 2012 - 04:03 PM
You mouse over the picture inside the picture and click on that.
I don't see a link, or a picture. There is a big white space in the middle of the post tho.
#7
Posted 09 February 2012 - 05:59 PM
#8
Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:02 PM
#9
Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:20 PM
#10
Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:07 AM
For some reason, this site will not allow me to post the link alone, without the "media" boxes on either end.
#11
Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:21 AM
#12
Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:29 AM
#13
Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:35 PM
#14
Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:01 AM
The no-center idea requires you to take on a mathematical expression as if it were reality. If you consider space to be simply three dimensions - stuff that we can all conceptualise and understand - then there are two definable centers. Those would be the gravitational center and the physical center. They should be in pretty much the same place unless there is something massive on one extremity of the universe.I've got a question that perhaps someone can explain to someone like me who is no good at physics or astronomy. I heard somewhere that according to the Big Bang theory, the universe doesn't have a center.
The basic 3D concept of the universe is the one I hold to. There aren't any extra dimensions or limits to how far we can travel away from Earth. The universe is just everything that was created and beyond the fartherest thing there is nothing. The size of the universe is dependent upon the fartherest distance mass is removed from the center.
The space-time model of the universe is a lot more complicated and impossible to consider on a rational level without resorting to abstractions. The predictive power and usefulness of the mathematics, however, is not evidence that there are those abstractions in reality.
And all that because the link isn't working for me either.

#15
Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:49 AM
If you consider space to be simply three dimensions - stuff that we can all conceptualise and understand
Thanks Stripe!
Unfortunately I'm not good at conceptualising dimensions. To me, space is just this black stuff with a lot of white dots on it.

But somehow I get the feeling that there's more to it than that.

#16
Posted 13 February 2012 - 12:08 PM
#17
Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:30 PM
I can live with that.Thanks Stripe!
Unfortunately I'm not good at conceptualising dimensions. To me, space is just this black stuff with a lot of white dots on it.
But somehow I get the feeling that there's more to it than that.

Uh... What?thus if calculus is true then there must be blackholes
#18
Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:40 PM
#19
Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:23 AM
Mathematicians are idiots.lol, that is what i was told, a physics major told me that. serious, it was years ago and i may have missunderstood him

#20
Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:41 AM
lol, that is what i was told, a physics major told me that. serious, it was years ago and i may have missunderstood him
You didn't. Come on, the prediction of Black Holes through math is about 90 years old! This got predicted around WWI with math. We have now confirmed objects that actually fullfill these predictions. What's so weird about it?
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