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#41 Bob Enyart

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:09 AM

Hi Revelation,

There's a lot of great info in this thread already, but to reinforce a couple points (from our YoungEarth.com website):

Christ Himself reminded us in Mark 10:6, that, "from the beginning of the creation [not after billions of years], God made them male and female." So, scientific observations refute the claim of an old earth while God's word teaches us that the creation is young.

Also, in the Ten Commandments at Exodus 20, God said that in six days He created the heavens, the earth, the seas, and everything in them.

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p.s. Hey Fred, our young earth site is climbing the charts (when googling: young earth), and might soon surpass the talk origins' page. That would be fun :)

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:49 PM

Hi Revelation,

There's a lot of great info in this thread already, but to reinforce a couple points (from our YoungEarth.com website):

Christ Himself reminded us in Mark 10:6, that, "from the beginning of the creation [not after billions of years], God made them male and female." So, scientific observations refute the claim of an old earth while God's word teaches us that the creation is young.

Also, in the Ten Commandments at Exodus 20, God said that in six days He created the heavens, the earth, the seas, and everything in them.

-Bob Enyart

p.s. Hey Fred, our young earth site is climbing the charts (when googling: young earth), and might soon surpass the talk origins' page. That would be fun Posted Image


Well, that's good to know. But if one takes ages of the chronologies in Genesis, Chronicles, etc. seriously, (& every Bible believing Christian should) then one cannot reasonably come up with something different than an approx. 6,000 yr age. Not only so but we also need to take seriously what the R.A.T.E. folks discovered about C14 in diamonds, zircons, helium decay, and polonium haloes in granite rock. All of that is very helpful.

Best wishes.
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:08 PM

Hi Revelation,

There's a lot of great info in this thread already, but to reinforce a couple points (from our YoungEarth.com website):

Christ Himself reminded us in Mark 10:6, that, "from the beginning of the creation [not after billions of years], God made them male and female." So, scientific observations refute the claim of an old earth while God's word teaches us that the creation is young.

Also, in the Ten Commandments at Exodus 20, God said that in six days He created the heavens, the earth, the seas, and everything in them.

-Bob Enyart

p.s. Hey Fred, our young earth site is climbing the charts (when googling: young earth), and might soon surpass the talk origins' page. That would be fun Posted Image


Hi Bob. I believe specifically in a ~6000 year old creation of biological life. However the bible seems to indicate that the formless earth was already in existence before the commencement of the first day. How would you explain Genesis 1 says the earth was already in existence in darkness , then light was created, then we had the first evening, then the first morning (the first day)



In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.



3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.



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Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:38 PM

Hi Bob. I believe specifically in a ~6000 year old creation of biological life. However the bible seems to indicate that the formless earth was already in existence before the commencement of the first day. How would you explain Genesis 1 says the earth was already in existence in darkness , then light was created, then we had the first evening, then the first morning (the first day)





In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.



3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.



I'll try to be courteous in this matter but I don't agree with that view of the time frame. Here's why:

"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day:" Exodus 20:11

God did not take longer than six literal, 24 hr days to create everything: the whole 'shootin' match', including the heaven and the earth. The Word of God is not ambiguous on this matter. The 'gap theory' idea really should not enter into consideration in the matter. the earth was 'formless & void'...that is devoid of features and life...only until God begn to form things subsequently. But there is no justification for any attachment of long ages of time. It was all done in six days, the heavens and the earth therefore made on the first day.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:01 AM

C14 half-life is 5700 years (after 5700 years, half of it turns into Nitrogen). After 100K years, it should be completely gone. Why do we find C14 everywhere, including coal that is supposed to be millions of years old? Why do we find it in diamonds that are supposed to be millions of years old? The evolutionists have no explanation for this. They can't blame it on contamination, since their own experiments under the greatest of care to prevent contamination still yields C14.

Perhaps a lot of carbon was buried in some global disaster in the distant past? Posted Image More details are available in this thread on the topic.

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Hi Fred, can you clarify more about the underlined part? Is that one of their machine used to detect C14 your referring to? What does that got to do with contamination? Thanks.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 04:54 AM

Hi Fred, can you clarify more about the underlined part? Is that one of their machine used to detect C14 your referring to? What does that got to do with contamination? Thanks.

Sometimes preservatives can contaminate a sample. I think this was once a cop out by those embarrassed by C14 presence.
Except for an external source (contamination), radioactivity as source for the presence of C14 should be excluded, too.
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