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Posted 14 August 2005 - 04:41 AM

I feel like this is another thread in intself:

As long as their is sin atonement, man is safe. Where it says no sin atonement, the person is not.

1) The old convenant: God-Goat (sin atonement)-man.

2) The new convenant: God-Jesus (sin atonement)-man

3) The rejection of convenant: God-Goat (NO sin atonement)-man

Number one shows the old convenant, and who the sin atonement was with, and what had to be sacraficed to get atonement (sins forgiven) for sin.

Number two show the new convenant, where Christ died on the cross and became the sacrafice for all sin. And became the lamb of God (sins fogiven).

Scripture teaches that no one has every been justified by anything other than faith:

GAL 3:6 Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.

GAL 3:11 Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "The righteous man shall live by faith."

The law never nullified the 1st covenant:

GAL 3:17 What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise.

The law was never able to impart life:

GAL 2:21 "I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."

GAL 3:21 Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law.

The law was never able to take ways sins:
HEB 10:4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
HEB 10:5 Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, "Sacrifice and offering Thou hast not desired, But a body Thou hast prepared for Me;
HEB 10:6 In whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin Thou hast taken no pleasure.

The law had one puprose only:

GAL 3:24 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith.

GAL 3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

The law is done away with since we have the reality of the law, and not the shadows wich were never able to accomplish justification:

HEB 10:1 For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never by the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near.

There is a very subtle distinction in scripture that must be understood. God may not take acount someone's sins, but that does not mean they have the Righteousness of God (ROG)that is required for eternal life.

This is kind of like a ballance on the ledger. Being forgiven for a sin, only gets you back to a zero ballance, but you must have a positive ballance to have the ROG and have his eternal life.

Christ paid the price for the sins of the world,

1JO 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

JOH 1:29 ¶ The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

So Christ removed the sin problem of mankind, but that does not get you eternal life.

You only get the ROG through faith.

GAL 3:6 Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.

This is why its written:

JOH 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Obey here, refers to the command to believe. This is why any theology that is based on being justified before God by not willfully sinning, or asking forgiveness if you do(edited: after your saved), can never line up with scripture.

Either you have believed and accepted the Gospel, or you have not. Its that simple.

This justification is accompanied by sanctification:

HEB 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

This clearly states that when a person is sanctified, that he is perfected for all time.

IOW, your salvation is complete for all time.

In summary:
The law was never able to impart eternal life.
The blood of Bulls and Goats could never take away sin.
The purpose of the Law was to lead us to Christ, even in the old testament.
Sin is not the problem for mankind anymore, its their attitude toward Christ.
Justification before God has always come through faith in Christ.
Justification results in sanctification in Christ, for all time.

In Christ,


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