The gospel for us today is freedom from the law. Anyone who preaches any other gospel, let him be accursed.
Paulinism is a lie of the devil and you have been deceived. Paul never says "my gospel". He cannot preach contrary to him that sent him. You have all distorted his writings for your own destruction. Freedom from the law of the sacrifice. The price of our life Jesus has paid, and so he has made us free from THAT LAW.
For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
But if they were servants to sin then there must have been a law or how would they know? The law causes us to have knowledge of whether we are sinning or not. Notice they have been made free from sin NOT FROM THE LAW!
Question: In the Garden, how many prohibitive laws did God give to Adam?
The law has two purposes and two only: God’s law, if enforced justly and swiftly, deters crime. The second purpose is to convict us that we are sinners in need of a Savior. But Jesus is the “end of the law for righteousness.” If we have to keep the law for salvation, then Jesus did not have to keep the law for us and go to the Cross. Right?
Adam didn't need many prohibitive laws because there was no sin. It wouldn't make sense to tell Adam not to steal or worship false God's right after creation. As for the purpose of the law, show me where that is in the Bible and I'll agree, assuming it isn't another text you distorted. So what then? Shall we live how ever we want because Jesus died on the cross? God forbid! Brother this makes no sense in the light that we are called to walk as Jesus walked. I have referenced a number of Bible texts but you haven't give me any. Because there are no Bible texts defending what you assume.
No record of any prohibition against working on the Sabbath exists until God fed Israel with manna 2,500 years after creation. A careful study reveals that 110 chapters of the Bible report this early period of human history (Genesis 2 through 50, Exodus 1-19, and Job 1:42) without a single mention of a weekly prohibition of work or of any Sabbath observance. The Bible’s first mention of the word Sabbath occurs in God’s command to Israel that forbade the collection of manna on the Sabbath (Ex. 16:23). That reference does not use the definite article. If God had said, “Tomorrow is the Sabbath,” normal grammatical rules would indicate that they had prior knowledge of the Sabbath. Rather, God omitted the definite article and used the full form, Shabbaton Shabbat kodesh “a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath” in the way of a formal introduction of the concept to Israel.
The Sabbath is not about not working but a relationship with God. The commandment is "remember", if it was a new law why did they have to remember? Does that make sense in light of what you are saying?
Today, God holds in abeyance His covenant with Israel. So since He has temporarily set that nation aside, what does that imply concerning the Sabbath? The Body is not Israel! First, Paul explained that God “cut off” Israel (Romans 11:11-26). Later, he defended the man “who does not observe the day (Rom. 14:5-6). Since God gave the Sabbath as a sign for Israel, and then cut her off, He will not require men to keep the Sabbath again until Israel is “grafted in again” (Rom. 11:23 with Ex. 31:16-17; Lev. 24:8-9; 2 Chr. 2:4; Isaiah 66:22-23).
No where is the Sabbath mentioned in those texts and I will not accept them because you know full well he is talking about fasting. Stop lying to yourself. None of those texts point to what you are saying.
I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Says here Israel rejected and was blind and that even God would break them from his tree. God doesn't care about a specific nation but his people. Anyone can be his if they want, accept Jesus and keep the commandments. This texts holds no weight in your argument. You cannot deny that the Sabbath was before the Jew.
Paul defends the one “who does not observe the day” (Rom. 14:5-6) based on God’s emancipation of the Body of Christ from Sabbath keeping (Col. 2:16-17) as well as from all the required symbols of the law. A man in the Body should love God and his neighbor. He should not murder, steal or fornicate (Rom. 13:8-10). He should have no other gods before the LORD, nor should he take the LORD’s name in vain. God expects him to live this way, but He does not expect him to submit to the law since the law cannot produce righteousness. Members of the Body of Christ are “dead to the law through the body of Christ” (Rom. 7:4) and “have been delivered from the law” (Rom. 7:6). Adultery, however, retains its destructive effect. While God took the law “out of the way, having nailed it to the Cross” (Col. 2:14) the moral behavior described in the law remains good and right. (For sure, a believer’s life should exhibit the righteousness described by Tier One and Tier Two of the law.
I already debunked that text in the first 2 posts! Did you even read the OP!?
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
This text, nor the whole book of Romans mention the word Sabbath or the seventh day. He was talking about fasting. Go read the OP.
God's law is not up for debate, you follow it or be lost. God would never tell people to be fully persuaded to their own mind in terms of his Ten Commandments. If you read the whole book you will clearly see its context.
You guys are not reading my posts or are ignoring my arguments.
Which promise? God made two covenants with Abraham:
Under the first covenant in Genesis 15, God put Abraham to sleep. While asleep, Abraham could do nothing except believe. “And he believed God; and He counted it to him for righteousness.” Fourteen years later, in Genesis 17, God commanded Abraham to circumcise. This is the second covenant.
The first covenant is the Covenant of grace which Paul would preach. Paul would also refer to it as the Gospel of Uncircumcision (Gal. 2:7 & 9). The command to circumcise is the second covenant or the Gospel of Circumcision (works plus faith). The Gospel of Uncircumcision is justification by faith alone. The Apostle Paul would write of this in Romans 4:
“Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin. Does this blessedness then come upon the circumcised only or upon the uncircumcised also? For we say that faith was accounted to Abraham for righteousness. How then was it accounted? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised. And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also, and the father of the circumcision to those who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of the faith which our father Abraham had while still uncircumcised”
Circumcision is the cutting off of the flesh or foreskin. Why did God give this strange ritual? Circumcision is a synonym for the Law. Israel had to circumcise and keep the law, as the effort to keep the law is a “cutting off of the flesh.” Paul wrote, “For the flesh lusts against the Spirit [God], and the Spirit against the flesh…” (Gal. 5:17-19).
Even Moses spoke of the circumcision of the heart to obey God and we need that same obedience today. The physical circumcision was part of the ceremonial law.
This would be like asking the King of Saudi Arabia why you have to obey his laws when you are in his country. Right?
I agree it would be but think about this. God is a God of order. We live in his universe so we have to obey his laws.
You have placed Paul under Acts 20:29-30. He taught that we are saved by grace and not by works lest any man should boast.
I have been saying the whole time no one is saved by works. That is not a new gospel, he is repeating the same thing the WHOLE Bible says. No one has ever been saved by works. NO ONE. I must place the man under his own writings because you all seek to distort him and I don't want you guys to be lost.
Before posting please re read everything, this whole thread from the beginning. Then pray and ask the Holy Spirit and then go back and read the whole thread again. I highly recommend the extra reading links that explain Romans 14. Please read, they are for your profit.