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#1 ikester7579

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Posted 24 September 2008 - 11:14 PM

It has come to my attention, because I have a Youtube account, that there are those who would prefer that some of us not to have an account because they disagree with the message. Basically what they do is a bait and switch deal.

The Christian-Creationist haters will copy your original video or videos, put it on their channel. And make fun of it. They will send you a message letting you know what they have done. This is the bait. Now they want you to get mad enough to make a certain type claim on the videos. One where you claim a certain type ownership (copyright). And then claim they have broken copyright laws.

At which point they will tell you that if your claims are false, and if you cannot produce copyright papers. They will counter sue you. And then to scare you even more, they will say: Since you have made false accusations against me. You can either delete your account and I won't bother you anymore. Or you can be sued by me. For I have all the evidence when you sent me your message making the false accusations.

You see, Youtube has made a user agreement that says that you have more or less given them Global rights to do what ever with your uploaded videos. And to fight any copyright infringements, you have to take on everything (expenses etc...).

Example message that was sent to me:

6C of the user agreement
6C You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, REPRODUCE, DISTRIBUTE, DISPLAY and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service.

I have emailed you and explained Youtube user agreement part 6C which means you already have given me permission to copy your videos (By uploading them to youtube)

I have explained a false copyright claim by you is against youtube user agreement and will result in his banning when I file a counter claim.

Also its purgery (Criminal offence) to file a false copyright claim.

Also you are liable for civil and punative awards against you in court for a false copyright claim.

He should contact a lawyer as the copyright claim form suggests. I suggest an international copyright specialist, this will cost 500$ an hour for atleast 3 hours to get their opinion. Failing to get legal advice and take it when youtube have suggested you do it, will not look good for you when it comes to time to decide how much punative awards are due to your false claim.

Now you have been educated (this email will be supplied in court), your "I did not know" you will use in court will be seen as the Lie it is. Not that being ignorant of the law is any excuse, as you seem to think it is the case of science.


Then they will taunt you to do it as shown with this example:

Read the user agreement, you gave permission fior every youtube user to copy it. You have breached the copyright if anyone. There welcome to spend 10,000$ to get 10$ Ill find it funny. Anyway the video will beack online straight after I file counter claim. You willing to break the law to file a claim?


Then they will gloat about their accomplishments:

You think your the first fundy to file copyright claim against nme? 6 others have all their videos are back up on my accounts. The same will happen with yours :)


I don't mind people who disagree with me or my videos. But this is just hateful. And Youtube more or less supports it by making the rules the way that they do. So I will list the user names who cause trouble that I currently know of.

(all are links)
Thounderf00t
UglyAlienLesbian
BigInvisableSkyDaddy
StupidCreationists
Jesuslives57 Which is not a Christian channel. The guy only posing as one.
If you really want to get the majority of the Christian haters blocked, just go to this channel: Rational response squad This channel and their website specializes in promoting the hate.
Here is another channel that promotes the hate against all Christians: Infidel guy
And we must not forget this one as well: Blasphemy Challenge
Here is another who is against Christians and Creationist, his name is: davisfleetwood
ComedyJesus, makes jokes about Jesus.
JamesRandiFoundation
trebob27

I'm sure there are lots more users doing this.

If you own a Youtube account ministry I suggest that you block these names and their friends and subscribers. Or better yet, get an account with Godtube.

If you don't believe that they hate all Christians and Creationists, just go look at their channels on Youtube and see for yourself.

Question: Is this what they mean by being:
1) Rational?
2) A free thinker?
3) A person who helps their fellow man?

Or someone with a Hitler mentality who loves to hate everyone who disagrees with them and use strong arm tactics to shut them up just like Hitler did. I guess when the debates don't debunk the evidence, they have to resort to the next best thing. Is this what evolution teaches people to do? Is this what we can expect from everyone eventually because evolution makes them do this? I don't understand, can someone please explain this to me?

Here are some examples of what these anti-Christian-Creationists channels do. They take original videos from another channel, rename them by using unscientific comments, and post them on their channels. Now remember, they basically are not making their own videos, they are copying yours with only one goal in mind.

Examples from the StupidCreationist channel (make sure to read info on the right side of video):



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xpO-jvtX6k

Most of these are what is called "sock puppet" accounts. What this means if that the person who opens them is one in the same. They open several accounts to hide their tracks because they can never own up to what they do. So they hide in the shadows. Sock puppet accounts also include accounts where they can pose as a Christian to try and trick you. These people are so full of lies, deceptions of this fashion are the norm for them.

So you need to:
1) Block them.
2) Block their friends and subscribers.

Any member or guest here is welcome to copy this post and put it on other Christian forums. People need to know what is going on, on Youtube.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 03:40 AM

The other thing that is happening on youtube is parody channels are popping up.

Parody: make a spoof of or make fun of.

Basically, they claim to be something, or represent something, they are not. An examples of this is here.

Swiftvoters
God tube This channel is also a sock puppet channel And if you watch the video, notice how he baits a Christian to challenge him. What he wants is you to make a mocking comment or claim or threaten him in which he will say that he will sue you. Then he will e-mail you and say: Your choices are: 1) Remove your channel and I won't sue you. 2) Don't remove your channel and I will sue you. And because his threats are more of a bluff. He gets unsuspecting youtubers who know no better to delete their accounts and leave.

etc...

I estimate there are hundreds, possibly thousands of these channels feeding lies and deceptions to unsuspecting viewers. Channels misrepresenting God, politics, and individuals. If you know of any yourself, fell free to post them here.

Here is the evolution evangelizing channel: DonExodus2

I have been referred to this channel by several evolutionists in their attempt to evangelize me. Yes even atheist evangelize for their cause. And their way of thinking includes evolution. So they evangelize for evolution also.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 07:53 AM

The other thing that is happening on youtube is parody channels are popping up.

Parody: make a spoof of or make fun of.

Basically, they claim to be something, or represent something, they are not. An examples of this is here.

Swiftvoters
God tube This channel is also a sock puppet channel And if you watch the video, notice how he baits a Christian to challenge him. What he wants is you to make a mocking comment or claim or threaten him in which he will say that he will sue you. Then he will e-mail you and say: Your choices are: 1) Remove your channel and I won't sue you. 2) Don't remove your channel and I will sue you. And because his threats are more of a bluff. He gets unsuspecting youtubers who know no better to delete their accounts and leave.

etc...

I estimate there are hundreds, possibly thousands of these channels feeding lies and deceptions to unsuspecting viewers. Channels misrepresenting God, politics, and individuals. If you know of any yourself, fell free to post them here.

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The person may be threatening to sue, but he must also realize that we have the ability to sue back, since he was the one who was doing the offending by posting the OFFENSIVE video first. So I believe the case would be in favor of the christians simply because it is clear who was being offensive in the first place.

But when push comes to shove, you can use internet capabilites to track these people down, and expose them for the frauds they are. A couple of people on hotrod sites, use the internet to track down fraudulent sales. And if these people are exposed to who they are, charges can become very serious.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 08:21 AM

He has already been taken off youtube several times. And he always gets back on using some law he found. I"m going to contact the ACLJ about this and see what they can do.

What he does is called internet bullying and stalking. There are laws against this. If he makes the mistake and does this to a minor. It's a felony. Free speech does not cover the bullying of a minor.

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 05:25 PM

Agreed, I see no reason why anyone would want to be so childish and moral less.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:37 AM

Here is an example of more people having this problem.

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This video got removed. I suspect this person received threats.

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:38 PM

The stupidcreationists channel got suspended. So the links in the OP are not currently working. I'm leaving them just in case his channel gets reinstated. I do not have any information on what happened to his account because I try not to get involved in such disputes or rumors. But I suspect he pissed off thew wrong person. And I was sent a message the other day revealing how to conbat these people leagally through youtube without them being able to sue. Using youtubes own rules for using their site. I will post it when things cool down, for I am sure some people are somping mad about the account that got closed.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 08:27 PM

The fact that YouTube allows it to go on also troubles me. Swearing is forbidden but if you look up "The Bible is..." and put some kind of nasty word there you can find 1,000 videos with that title.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:08 AM

They also have videos of people burning Bibles as well.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

So your complaint is that when christians censor criticism of their ideas by submitting false copyright infringement claims to have videos critical of their views deleted (which is illegal) and then get busted breaking the law and censoring atheists... there are ramifications?

This is your idea of christian censorship?

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:41 PM

The fact that YouTube allows it to go on also troubles me. Swearing is forbidden but if you look up "The Bible is..." and put some kind of nasty word there you can find 1,000 videos with that title.

Yeah, free speech is a real problem. That's why I'm gonna go live in iran where it's so much nicer.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:06 PM

Yeah, free speech is a real problem. That's why I'm gonna go live in iran where it's so much nicer.


.... This isn't free speech its evolutionists / atheists trying to get rid of free speech by forcing people to remove their accounts.... This comment merely demonstrates how far you'd go to excuse the immoral tactics of your fellow believers.




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