You would lose that wager as well. The main goal as a Christian is always to bring souls into the kingdom. Not to bring doubt to the word by an unprovable theory that is implied as a true fact. If evolutionists were not implying their theory to be an absolute, the problem you speak of would not exist.
I think there was a misunderstanding and it is my fault. My point was that the botheration should go both ways.
And because neither can be proven to an actual absolute. It becomes a battle of faiths. Faith deals with what the heart accepts as truth. Problem is, the heart is where Christ is when we are saved. So the battle turns into: Who will have control over your heart felt faith.
I wouldn't say that I take science as a faith, but I can't speak for everyone.
I sincerely hope that no theistic evolutionist or old earth creationist loses control of their faith, or a young earth creationist for that matter.
Wonder why evolution and creation are always at each others throat? Here is your reason.
Christ does not share the heart with what is the exact opposite of what He is. Why? The heart is not designed to accept two masters.
mt 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
lk 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Being opposites, to accept one tears down the foundation of faith of the other. Which ever you decide to accept as more truth, makes the other less truth and more lies. Opposites always work that way.
What cannot be proven as a absolute "always" requires some faith to believe it. Anything that requires faith, that is not a direct support of God's word, will become a conflict with God's word. And will undermine your faith in God.
Faith is sown into the heart by the planting of seeds of faith.
mt 13:19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
We are supposed to give our hearts to Christ only, and all that supports what is written.
mt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
The heart is listed first because the heart has to be first to accept Christ before the rest can. Heart, soul, and mind is the trinity required for complete and total faith in God. When these three are in agreement, it is the most powerful faith that anyone can have.
Why is believing the word important as a part of having strong faith?
1jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The heart, soul, and mind (trinity) is required in agreement to have strong faith. And to reconize that the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost (trinity) shall bear record for or against us in Heaven. And need to be respected for that fact.
We can only serve one master, and the choice is God. I can't see that I'm serving Charles Darwin when I do my biology homework any more than I'm serving Charles Dickens when I do my literature homework.
Believing the word is of vital importance to having strong faith, for sure.
The main difference that keeps coming back is what it means to accept a scientific theory and how it affects our relationship with God. Some people will try to use it to tear down your faith in God, but that is on the person who does it. I think that they would use anything within their reach to do so.
Some people, especially young people, consider themselves under the authority of men, not God. Jesus said, "If you love me keep my commandments." The six days of constant unGodly messages from the media compete strongly with one day in Church.
The Bible tells me what to do, but to some who want to make money, that could be a problem. I can't go to strip clubs, and have to stay from Godless radio and television programs. Desperate Housewives, Stern and Imus to name a few examples. This unGodly, dysfunctional junk is regarded as acceptable by some even though it portrays the worst in people. I was fortunate to grow up in a community where the best of people was emulated.
Sure, there are many pits and places to stumble.
"All have sinned." I'm not perfect. But when Sam Harris writes about the "alien hiss of religion" in an article on secularhumanism.org he deceives readers into thinking that this was always so. Many great men of science openly acknowledged God.
If science tells you that you are just an animal and this life is all there is, your choices are pretty clear. God who? I can do what I want. Look up the quote: "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." No, I'm not even suggesting that you can't be the nicest person ever, but without Jesus Christ and actually acknowledging Him as God and personal saviour, what will happen to these people when they die? "Maybe God used evolution..." Really? I take God at His word.
I already talked about how God has set us apart from animals.
They're going to an eternity of suffering.
What does God say as to the mechanism
of His creation, specifically? I think the important thing is that He created it.
If I created a planet for the first man, it would be fully formed and ready to live on. And then there is the witness of the Holy Spirit of God. Do not be deceived. Your adversary, the devil, goes about like a roaring lion seeking whom he might devour. Some of this generation, and certainly most in the media, no longer endure sound doctrine. Science is giving them the excuse they need.
I'd say everything was set by the time He created man. What is time to an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and eternal God?
There have always be non-believers. I don't think that just because some use science today to attack belief should be cause to see science as bad.