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#1 Fossilized Human Brain

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Posted 12 January 2008 - 11:13 PM

An interesting situation I've been in.
Sorry folks, but intellectual, I'm not.
I can't even start to compete on many of the great debates I have seen here, but it's fun to watch issues develope and try to figure out what you're talking about!
On another note, I feel I am in a virtual quagmire that I need help with.
A few months ago, I came to realize that an item I have may have scientific significance.
What I didn't know, was just how deeply rooted the "scientific elite" are in their comradere of anti- soft tissue-ism.
I discovered for them to be free thinkers, breaking away from their canned "think tank saturation" is just simply asking far too much.
Back to the item.
I have recognized that I have a rock specimen that very well may be a fossilized Human brain.
Please...have fun...laugh, some other people do...until they see this thing and they see the website I built just for information and comparisons of human brains.
This one rock has over 500 features and counting, on the outside, of a human brain.
Then...I got it x-rayed.
Top view shows symmetry, something the geologists and biologists tell me rocks don't have.
It aligns within 1 degree with the normal alignment of a human brain.
It's symmetry/ asymmetry is right in normal range, then you get to the side view.
It deteils the entire limbic system, exactly as you would expect to view it, with external injuries factored in. In other words, if it was perfectly in line, side view...something would be wrong.
Anyone wishing detailed explanation, I'll be happy to give it.
Next, I sent it to a college in Ga., for examination. Several x-ray techs looked at it, couldn't tell it from a brain.
two radiologists examined, saw x-rays, couldn't tell.
Ordered Cat Scan.
Guess what? This rock specimen got a cat scan at a medical facility that day...for FREE!
Their conclusion?
It PROBABLY is not.
Reason?
Because a brain cannot permineralize.
Nothing of it's own merits, only the canned speach about petrification.
Went to another university.
Same thing.
Studied the website, concluded it proably is not.
Reason...same as above.
NOTHING FROM IT'S OWN MERITS!
Got in touch with University of Texas, Austin.
They studied the website FOR ALMOST FOUR HOURS.
Hit the site over a dozen times.
Sent me an e-mail, said same thing.
Zero to do with the merits of the specimen!
I have shown this rock to over a dozen doctors, and over a hundred other medical personel. Only a handful have discounted it as probably not...because...you guessed it! Never one reason of it's own merit.
I thought a Biologist had me one time with a couple of things...but when I cleaned it, had not been cleaned yet, found what he said it should show, ( Great vein of Galen), and x-rays verified the second, ( compression from the back and back of bottom...brain stem)
Anesthesiologist friend of mine viewed drilling dust under 900x and confirmed cellular.
Now, about that "can't" issue.
I don't expect many people haven't heard of caprolites.
This is only one way to explain their puzzled, " I only have one problem with this, how, outside the cranium?"
Answer...explain caprolites, I'll explain the petrified brain!
A Th.D friend of mine is going nuts over this.
He is much more knowledgable than i am, but as I understand it, if this thing carbon dates and/ or other means dates long, but Mit. DNA ancestors young, somebody needs to either rewrite the history books, or throw out all the carbon dating mumbo jumbo.
(Example...American Indians, nor Europeans were not supposed to be in N. America 50,000 years ago.)
Likewise...brains (especially the grandest of them all, human) are not supposed to permineralize.
By the way, how do they know that caprolite stuff is really dino-doo?
Anybody really know what dino-doo looks like? No? I didn't think so.
Sounds to me like more evidence for soft something fossilization.
Can you imagine the furor over actual proving, (like there is really a way to prove anything to a totally closed mind) this is a petrified human brain?
I have found over 1,000 inside and out, features, wounds, similarities identified,
found maggot entrances, trails and C.T. of actual worm inside,
never had evn one credible, un-selfserving repudiation of it's own merits, yet they have tens of thousands of caprolites found around the world...they readily accept them as din-doo...around the world, just from a casual visual inspection, and yet these same people will deny the probability of the reality of this specimen.
Weird...profoundly weird!
I hope I am not breaking the rules by doing this, but I ask anyone and everyone to view the website,(then come back here)
Be sure to see the x-rays page (all the way down) and keep in mind that I only have about 1/4 of the research done on the site.
I really would appreciate response.
www.Petrifiedhumanbrain.com

#2 Terry

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 12:40 AM

Interesting site. It looks like a nodule of laterite.

What's it' mineralogy, do you know? What part of the world was it found in; was it found on the surface??

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 02:22 PM

Crystallized silica, and something extremely
hard and part is smokey and milkey quartz.
Seen by three geologists, the only thing they positively identified was the small amount of visible quartz, at what could be considered the pedunclear cistern.
Tullahoma, Tennessee,
yes, on the surface, had been apparently removed from a different location.
Caves, mountainous, streams in the area.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:51 AM

To me it appears to be a stone that has an unusual resemblance to a brain. Resemblance.

Looking at your comparisons to brains and brain scans, I would say that one could make an equally convincing argument that it is a petrified cauliflower.

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Posted 18 February 2008 - 06:53 PM

To me it appears to be a stone that has an unusual resemblance to a brain. Resemblance.

Looking at your comparisons to brains and brain scans, I would say that one could make an equally convincing argument that it is a petrified cauliflower.

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Yes, a symmetrical cauliflower with some temporal lobes...

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 03:49 PM

I know this is an old post but, soft tissue fossilization has already been proven a fact. A fossilized brain should not pose a problem for the scientific realm. The only reason it would be opposed, is if it was human, simply because of a evolutionary world view. This find truly does upset the evolutionary community, unless it can be proven that its NOT a human brain, or a brain at all.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 08:25 PM

You know, nothing screams "reputable" like a soul crushingly bad layout containing images of strange old people holding a vaguely brain shaped rock. Are you serious? Why are some people holding the rock using gloves while the guy who is obviously using it as a prop for youth group meetings is letting everyone touch it with their bare hands? Why, for that matter, if this is such a fantastic discovery, is this used as a prop instead of being examined at a decent geology lab? While we're at it, I've got a brilliant solution to all those pesky issues of what the x-rays and cat scans actually show. Why don't you just cut it in half? If it's really a petrified brain we should be able to confirm it fairly easily just by looking at the cross section.

This doesn't look anything like a brain. A brain looks like this:


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That rock looks like this:

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Sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe next time you should take to unbiased scientists to do actual research before throwing up such an awful website and making such fantastically error laden claims.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 09:14 PM

You know, nothing screams "reputable" like a soul crushingly bad layout containing images of strange old people holding a vaguely brain shaped rock.  Are you serious?  Why are some people holding the rock using gloves while the guy who is obviously using it as a prop for youth group meetings is letting everyone touch it with their bare hands?  Why, for that matter, if this is such a fantastic discovery, is this used as a prop instead of being examined at a decent geology lab?  While we're at it, I've got a brilliant solution to all those pesky issues of what the x-rays and cat scans actually show.  Why don't you just cut it in half?  If it's really a petrified brain we should be able to confirm it fairly easily just by looking at the cross section.

This doesn't look anything like a brain.  A brain looks like this:
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That rock looks like this:

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Sorry to burst your bubble.  Maybe next time you should take to unbiased scientists to do actual research before throwing up such an awful website and making such fantastically error laden claims.

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Actually the website was pretty good, and sorry to burst your bubble but you are insisting that he take the rock to extremely biased evolutionist suedo scientist.

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 05:48 PM

Actually the website was pretty good, and sorry to burst your bubble but you are insisting that he take the rock to extremely biased evolutionist suedo scientist.

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Seriously? You think the best way to build a website is oddly stacked and sized blocks of overlapping text and pictures set on a garish background scheme?

Yes, withholding evidence for your theory from people who already don't agree with you is an excellent way to convince others of the veracity of your claim. What an unstoppable steam roller of logic. The gall you display in calling scientists who follow evidence over internally and externally contradictory theology "pseudo-scientific" is of epic proportions. It's a rock, if you want it considered otherwise take it to a reputable lab instead of the local youth group, it's not rocket science.

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 08:37 PM

Seriously?  You think the best way to build a website is oddly stacked and sized blocks of overlapping text and pictures set on a garish background scheme? 

Yes, withholding evidence for your theory from people who already don't agree with you is an excellent way to convince others of the veracity of your claim.  What an unstoppable steam roller of logic.  The gall you display in calling scientists who follow evidence over internally and externally contradictory theology "pseudo-scientific" is of epic proportions.  It's a rock, if you want it considered otherwise take it to a reputable lab instead of the local youth group, it's not rocket science.

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Thats nice.

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Posted 23 November 2008 - 05:50 PM

It's a rock.

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 07:16 AM

Thats nice.

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Yes, it was.

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 03:47 PM

The only thing that makes me skeptical is the fact that it's quartz.Quartz dissovles deep under mountains in very high temps. which is then perculated out of the mountain in what is called plumbing vents.The person would have had to die near a plumbing vent,and then how could his brain fossilize intact outside of his cranium.

Soft tissue fossilization is indeed a fact,recently a duck billed dinosaur was discovered with it's heart and other internal organs fossilized.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:55 AM

It's a rock.

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This is one of my favorite funny shaped rocks (although it appears that they painted it to help with the illusion).

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The general phenomenon is called Pareidolia
"The term pareidolia (pronounced /pæraɪˈdoʊliə/) describes a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being perceived as significant.
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I have always been fascinated by the interest these objects receive. Many of the apparent objects and images have sold for good money on Ebay. One of the most famous cases is the Mary in the Cheese Toast. It received 1.7 million hits and sold for $28,000 on Ebay to the Golden Palace Casino. I presume that people that have a poor sense of probability are attracted to it. That is just the sort of people a Casino wants to to come through their doors.
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Posted 27 November 2008 - 10:19 PM

So what does cheese toast have to do with a rock that is shaped like a brain? It's not an image, so the somparison is not the same.




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