This is a great post and I relate.Ã‚Â I was at a forum that had a mix of people including a few Christians.Ã‚Â Even Christians who believe in abortion and G*y marriage- go figure.Ã‚Â We debate anything and everything including G*y marriage and politics.Ã‚Â What I found is nothing makes the left madder than challenging evolution.Ã‚Â G*y marriage is second and calling Obama the messiah is third.Ã‚Â Ã‚Â But G*y marriage is a distant second.Ã‚Â You get called a bigot a lot for believing in traditional marriage but I can handle that.
What walks like a duck and quacks like a duck is a duck. So if you ran into people whom were claiming the walk and talk Christian, and their walk and talk did not match up. What you saw was how this group of anticreationist Bible scoffers are chronic liars. You won't believe some of the people we get here that tell so many bald face lies about what they believe, that their lies actually start contradicting themselves because they cannot remember all the lies they told us.
And we just about fall out of our seats laughing when they do it. You know the lmao rotf type deal. Because they work so hard at convincing you of their lies, and then mess up like that. It's just funny.
What happens when you debate evolution is that they start to swarm, each going through a mocking cycle.Ã‚Â If you make a spelling mistake you would think you were the worst idiot in the world.Ã‚Â Then they start to follow you around and make make negative remarks about everything you post on other topics.Ã‚Â I literally missed sleep some nights.
When they have to attack, using other issues, when you debate them. It shows they cannot debunk your subject. What you have done there is bring up things that make them feel not smug in their beliefs. To get back at you, because it cannot be done scientifically, they find another way. So don't take it personally, they do it because their theory is not holding up to your questioning of it. It's their cry for help basically.
I have yet to have one evolutionist explain to me what makes those attacks scientific. And every time they do it, I point it out how unscientific and unprofessional it really is. They soon quit because I won't let them get away with it, and I will drive that point into the ground if they continue.
I made some mistakes like I called the activity gangbanging.Ã‚Â The worse mistake I made was being tenacious.Ã‚Â I kept going and would not let them intimidate me.Ã‚Â There are 2 Ph.D debating me; one in Biochemisty and other Chemical Engineering.Ã‚Â
Never believe what they claim about their education. I have caught several lying. Even one admitted to it. Remember, some atheist have morals in this area, and some don't. The ones that attack you in every area of your credibility, mock God, and scoff at the Bible. 99.9% of the time are Chronic Liars as well. They will lie about their world view, education, and evolution itself. Most are narcissists-humanist.
One is a researcher and the other is a professor.Ã‚Â The researcher was actually the best most respectful opposition I had.Ã‚Â Ã‚Â If I could debate him alone it would be fun.Ã‚Â The other I should have related to because I am a Chemical Engineer.Ã‚Â He got in jerk mode and would jump into an alias and bang me with all kinds of personal attacks.Ã‚Â When I challenged him in things like Maxwell Boltzman (statistical thermodynamics) and Quantum physics he wouldn't answer.Ã‚Â Ã‚Â Those who couldn't understand the science just thumped with personal attacks.Ã‚Â The moderator is a lawyer and an atheist.Ã‚Â He had some amazing posts and was a very good debater.Ã‚Â The only problem I had with him was what he allowed to happen.
The one whom is in jerk mode is doing it to cover for his lies to you. If he was who he claimed to be, he would not need to become a jerk. His knowledge would be enough that he would not need to. But resorting to unprofessional tactics when claiming to be a professional to some degree actually reveals the truth.
But after all that I learned something.Ã‚Â This is a spiritual battle.Ã‚Â At the core of any belief system or world view is how life began.Ã‚Â Therefore the core to atheism is evolution.Ã‚Â IMO evolution is advanced primarily as an advancement of atheism.Ã‚Â Creation screams of a wonderful caring God who created life in great diversity. Evolution steels that glory.Ã‚Â Anyway that is why I learning to debate evolution.Ã‚Â I want God glorified and I also want to show those that I witness to that evolution/atheism is not a firm foundation.
Evolution is the atheist religion.
1) It is based in Pagan religion. And dates all the way back to the time of Moses. Where the Egyptian religions of that time believed that man came from animals. They based their gods on it, and believed that their "ancestors" were half human half animal. And according to which race you were, determined what animal you came from. And in society levels, that determined your power as rulers, or slaves.
2) Darwin had no science degrees. But had one degree in theology. Back in his time, theology taught Biblical literalism. Which means that creation literalism was taught as well. Which means that Darwin, with his theology degree, was actually YEC before he got onto the Beagle.
3) Lyell had no science degrees either. He had a degree to practice being a lawyer. But Lyell was a Bible scoffer. His book on the geological column had his opinions about the Bible written all through it. It was a total attack on YEC. This is why Darwin turned against his literal teaching of God's word.
4) Darwin rejected his literal teaching of God word, which includes YEC. And to get back at the God who made him look stupid for believing the Bible literally. He came up with an idea based on two things.
a) To attack the idea of YEC so that he would not be made to look stupid as Lyell's book pointed out.
B) To use a Pagan religion idea (man came from animals), that is against God's creation as his revenge for this mockery to his pride and intellect that Lyell pointed out.Example:What God's word says
...................... What evolution theory says.
1) Earth before sun......................... 1) Sun before earth.
2) Oceans before land..................... 2) Land before oceans.
3) Light before sun.......................... 3) Sun before light.
4) Land plants first.......................... 4) Marine life first.
5) Fruit tree before fish.................... 5) Fish before fruit tree.
6) Fish before insects....................... 6) Insects before fish.
7) Plants before sun......................... 7) Sun before plants.
8) Man was created from solid matter. 8) Man evolved from liquid.
9) Bird before reptiles....................... 9) Reptiles before birds.
10) Animals reproduce after kind....... 10) Animals reproduce however they like.
You just don't come up with an idea that is the exact opposite of another idea unless that was your goal. The odds would not work.
But Darwin did not realize that modern science would prove him wrong, and reveal his theory is not scientific at all. I was going to start another thread on this, but I guess putting it here will do for now. And if a new thread needs to be started, it can be.DNA vs. Evolution:
Every 1% difference in DNA = 30 million differences between the two life forms. Current DNA difference claims is some where between 95% and 98%. Which in numbers would be:
60 million (60,000,000) base pair differences - 150 million (150,000,000) base pair differences.
Now why was narrowing up that number so important to get really close to 100%? When the claim about DNA was first made. Evolutionists did not realize that DNA was so vast. The human genome has over 3 billion base pairs. That was not known when the claim was first made. So saying 87% was okay. But once the genome got mapped, there arose a problem that evolutionists are afraid some one will figure out.
Our closest claimed ancestor "Lucy" is claimed to be 3.2 million years old. She would fall into the 2% range, which most evolutionist would agree upon. But let's do some math.
2% DNA difference = 60 Million differences.
Lucy is claimed to be 3.2 million years old.
That works out to 18.75 million base pair changes per year.And that works out to 51,369 base pair changes per day.
Now if 2% is to much, cut all those numbers in half for 1% difference and you will see that it still don't work.
Why is this important? Our immune system will attack anything that it deems as foreign to the human body. Animals have the same type reaction in their immune system. So changes this big and this fast would make our immune system attack those changes and we would become very sick, and probably die. As well as any animal would.
This is why 99.9999% of all evolutionists sites hide the actual genome number that the 1-5% difference represents. It reveals that evolution, in the claimed time-line, does not work. Even with millions of years.
Also, this would mean that the fusion of chromosome #2 causes 60 million things to change in our DNA (base pair changes). A deadly change at that. And if evolutionists try an claim our immune system was suppressed while this was going on. Then I can list several other problems as our bodies would be attacked by everything imaginable, and if we could not fight it with our immune system. We would die. So that does not work either.
So basically, evolution gets debunked by their own findings and claims that were wrong.