Sorry de_skudd, I forgot my internet died the other night when I tried to answer to you and then never got back to it.
I use the name Arch, or ArchDragon virtually everywhere I go (online), so if you've seen either of those two before there's a good chance it was me.
Gotcha, I thought I saw you around at other sights (FRDB etcetera). The name looked familiar.
I concur, my question in no way relates to evolution. The point I was hoping to get across is that one thing (in this case people) can turn into another and yet have the original population still exist. I was attempting to show a logical comparison.
No ape can communicate, reason or build? You obviously have not met Koko the gorilla! Wiki - Koko
I agree that a dogs bark or whale singing isn't the same as our language in the same way I don't think Spanish is the same as English. Just because they are primitive (the dogs, not the Spanish ), doesn't mean they don't have intelligence.
The problems with this series of analogies are manifold.
Did Koko evolve these supposed language skills on her own (her species over millions of years), or did Dr. Patterson Ã¢â‚¬Å“designÃ¢â‚¬Â a program to teach Koko utilizing Ã¢â‚¬Å“Pavlovian conditioningÃ¢â‚¬Â such as Positive reinforcement, Negative reinforcement, Positive punishment, Negative punishment, Avoidance learning, Extinction, Noncontingent reinforcement, Satiation, Immediacy, Contingency, Size, etceteraÃ¢â‚¬Â¦?
I taught my dog to let me know when she needs to go outside, when she is hungry etcetera. A friend of mine has a dog that rings a bell by the back door when it needs to go out. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve seen videos of differing domesticated animals (do you see the distinctions here) that flush the toilet after themselves, but my dog never comes up to me and says Ã¢â‚¬Å“You know what Dee, I really need to go out, but my lack of evolutionary opposable thumbs has robbed me of the ability to turn a door knob!Ã¢â‚¬Â, Ã¢â‚¬Å“Oh, and while youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re at it, could you grab me a Beggin StripÃ‚Â® out of the cupboard. IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m hankerin for some of itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s man-made fake-meat goodnessÃ¢â‚¬Â!
Spanish and English are equal languages, English and barking (or whale singing etcetera) are not, although all of these species have had Ã¢â‚¬Å“supposedÃ¢â‚¬Â millions of years to evolve such. Which, of course beggs my original question Ã¢â‚¬Å“if we (as Ã¢â‚¬Å“supposedÃ¢â‚¬Â animals) have Ã¢â‚¬Å“purportedlyÃ¢â‚¬Â spent the last few millions of years Ã¢â‚¬Å“allegedlyÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬Å“evolvingÃ¢â‚¬Â from primordial slime, why is man (of all this earthÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s inhabitance) the only Ã¢â‚¬Å“creaturesÃ¢â‚¬Â with these features?
The question was not do ALL the other species on this planet display some semblance of primitive intelligence, but rather, why have they not shown equal evolutionary progression (or even a fraction to half as much)? Therefore, there is no logical comparison.