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#1 Cassiterides

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 04:02 PM

Genesis depicts the tempter, the serpent, influencing Eve and in turn her husband, Adam, to disobey their Creator. God had told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate of the tree. But the serpent said to Eve, "You will not surely die." So Eve partook, found the fruit pleasant, then offered it to her husband, "and he ate" (Genesis 3:1-6).

Is this account only a myth? Many critics thought so. Yet archaeology has unearthed, not in biblical Israel, but in the site of the most ancient civilization known, Sumer, a seal depicting this very sequence of events described in the book of Genesis. This find, known as the Temptation Seal, is in the British Museum.

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''One striking and important specimen of early type in the British Museum collection has two figures sitting one on each side of a tree, holding out their hands to the fruit, while at the back of one is stretched a serpent. We know well that in these early sculptures none of these figures were chance devices, but all represented events or supposed events, and figures in their legends; thus it is evident that a form of the story of the Fall, similar to that of Genesis, was known in early times in Babylonia.''
- Chaldean Account of Genesis, George Smith, 1876, p.91

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:19 PM

Very interesting. Do you know whether or not the Bible has anything to say about the civilization of Sumer? Are they Chaldeans, because I do believe the Bible mentions the Chaldeans?

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 06:43 PM

Very interesting.  Do you know whether or not the Bible has anything to say about the civilization of Sumer? Are they Chaldeans, because I do believe the Bible mentions the Chaldeans?


Genesis 10: 10 mentions the land of Shinar. The name Sumer is derived from the Akkadian 'Shumer' and Shinar is simply a Hebrew corruption of the Akkadian word. This was the first region of civilization after the flood. Chaldeans were a people apart of the land of Shinar (Sumer) in the Mesopotamian region, ''Chasdim'' (Chaldea) a specific area of Shinar is found referenced briefly in Jeremiah 51: 24.

There is another "Adam and Eve" seal which sits in the University of Pennsylvania, the seal was found in 1932 by Dr. E. A. Speiser near the bottom of the Tepe Gawra Mound, 12 miles north of Nineveh. According to Speiser: it is "strongly suggestive of the Adam and Eve story.''

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:19 AM

More cut and paste:

http://defendtheword...gy-and-genesis/

”Genesis depicts the tempter, Satan, influencing Eve and in turn her husband, Adam, to disobey their Creator. God had told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate of the tree. But the serpent said to Eve, “You will not surely die.” So Eve partook, found the fruit pleasant, then offered it to her husband, “and he ate” (Genesis 3:1-6).

Is this account only a myth? Many critics thought so. Yet archaeology has unearthed, not in biblical Israel, but in the site of the most ancient civilization known, Sumer, a seal depicting this very sequence of events described in the book of Genesis. This find, known as the Temptation Seal, is in the British Museum."

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 08:41 AM

More cut and paste:

http://defendtheword...gy-and-genesis/

”Genesis depicts the tempter, Satan, influencing Eve and in turn her husband, Adam, to disobey their Creator. God had told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate of the tree. But the serpent said to Eve, “You will not surely die.” So Eve partook, found the fruit pleasant, then offered it to her husband, “and he ate” (Genesis 3:1-6).

Is this account only a myth? Many critics thought so. Yet archaeology has unearthed, not in biblical Israel, but in the site of the most ancient civilization known, Sumer, a seal depicting this very sequence of events described in the book of Genesis. This find, known as the Temptation Seal, is in the British Museum."

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One – According to the Biblical account God told Adam, not “Adam and Eve”. Eve hadn’t yet been created when God told Adam.

Two – It doesn’t matter what “Many critics” think, as they were neither there, nor do they have credible grounds for refutation other than presupposed opinion.

Three – It nowhere says “Biblically” that the “Garden of Eden” was in Israel. Nor has any credible Theologian, historian, or archeologist (to the best of my knowledge) ever claimed the location of the “Garden of Eden” being in Israel. And, to the best of my knowledge, it is widely believed that the “Garden of Eden” lies somewhere near Babylon.


Just some points of clarification.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

It's fascinating from an archeological and historical standpoint, but it doesnt mean those were real events. There are lots of depictions of Greek or Egyptian myths too. Is that evidence that those really took place?

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:37 PM

It's fascinating from an archeological and historical standpoint, but it doesnt mean those were real events.

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Nope, it doesn’t… And it doesn’t detract from those events either. What it does do is add (or supports) the other evidences.

There are lots of depictions of Greek or Egyptian myths too. Is that evidence that those really took place?

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I guess if you take into consideration the atheistic myths of something from nothing, or abiogenesis, then you might have something more like the Greek or Egyptian myths. But none of them have the evidences and claims of the Old and New Testaments.




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