I do not know what happened to my previous post here but...
What post are you talking about, and what are you insinuating? I was responding to your post #56 and it is right where you left it.
The modern theory of evolution was designed to describe certain natural phenomena amongst living beings.
The evolutionary scientists attempt to promulgate the model of evolution as something more then what it actually is.
Like other theories on natural occurrences, it doesn't have an "origin" because it is based on natural laws that have, essentially, always existed.
First Ã¢â‚¬â€œ if evolution (notice, I ma not referring to the model or theory of evolution, but Ã¢â‚¬Å“evolutionÃ¢â‚¬Â itself) exists, it MUST have origins. If it does not have origins, it does not exist.
Second Ã¢â‚¬â€œ You are Ã¢â‚¬Å“presupposingÃ¢â‚¬Â that Ã¢â‚¬Å“naturalÃ¢â‚¬Â laws are infinite. It is speculation, and therefore a faith statement. We know, from all the evidences extant, that the universe had a beginning, therefore, since you made the statement, I require you to provide evidence of the infinitude of the natural laws.
You can look at an empty sector of space and say that gravity does not exist there.
And, since you have not been there, you cannot prove either way. You can only presuppose and opine either way.
However, that does not mean that the modern theories of gravity do not apply there.
Nor does it mean that they do apply, since you have not been there to complete any inductive experimentation, therefore you cannot prove either way.
Put a large body of matter there and gravity will be observed, but the natural laws (physics) were always there to begin with.
Again, since you have not been there to conduct ANY experimentation, you have absolutely no idea what the affects will be there. At best, you can merely speculate.
That's why your question seems a bit odd.
It only seems odd if you donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t apply logic, rationale and scientific evidences. Now, can you provide examples of anything that exists, that doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have a beginning (origins)?
I think that the aforementioned answer, "when life began," is the best answer, if there is one.
Oh, thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s an answer. But the bigger question is, why are you running from the Ã¢â‚¬Å“origins of evolutionÃ¢â‚¬Â question. Also, if you attempt to get away with the "when life began," answer, I can extend that out to Ã¢â‚¬Å“then, since we know life as we know it is not infinite, then where did it come from?Ã¢â‚¬Â
Life exists, and had a beginning; therefore lifeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s origins ARE a part of life! If evolution exists, then evolution had a beginning; therefore evolution origins ARE a part of evolution!