Hi I have been following this forum on and off for awhile now and I really enjoy the substantive debate. I was doing a little research on these fibonacci numbers and I think this is arguably the most amazing phenomenon there is. I have heard some evolutionists say that fibonacci numbers are advantagous to evolution because they are so "efficient." For example, the leaves of a plant may create a spiral design to maximize exposure to sunlight for photosynthesis. I was wondering what my fellow creationists thought of this explanation? Also, how would evolutionists explain the appearance of the golden ratio/fibonacci numbers in the solar system and other non-living matter?
Here's the problem with that. How would any plant know how to do any design unless intelligence was involved?
Example (I'm not making fun of anyone when I use this example): Let's use 2 different people. Let's say one person is really smart. The other person has a mental problem that does not allow them to learn anything. Now which one do you think would be able to to do the Fibonacci numbers? the smart one, right? But which one would represent the intelligence of a plant and not be able to do the numbers? Get the picture?
You see evolutionists constantly try to use intelligence in evolution and then try to make it sound like intelligence was not involved. The plant or a supposed mechanism for evolution does not have the ability to make designs that have anything to do with math. Zero intelligence = no design and no math. Just like the person in the example who has a mental problem and cannot learn nor do anything beyond a simple gesture. He's not going to be able to do it, the plant is not going to be able to do it, evolution processes or mechanisms are not going to be able to do it. Which by the way leaves only one possibility whether anyone likes it or not.
Deductive logic states that once you eliminate everything that will not work, whatever is left, no matter how impossible, must be the answer. And when you apply that logic to every design that takes intelligence to produce then you see God all around you.