In Post 100, you asked me: "To whom do you think Peter was writing in his epistles? To Jews or Gentiles? I mistakenly answered Ikester thinking that he had asked the question. (I admitted I was wrong and confused for doing that.) But I answered that Peter wrote to the "pilgrims" or the "disperson" and I gave a good answer as to whom it was written which was not Gentiles.
Sure, but not only did you mistakenly confuse who
asked the question, you also seem to be totally confused about why
I posed the question. Now, once again I am forced to remind you to read carefully my posts instead of quickly jumping to conclusions. The question is posed was no attempt by me to assert that Peter wrote to the gentiles. I KNOW that he wrote to the Jews! Do you understand that?
The reason I asked you to whom Peter's epistles were addressed was because of the fact that he indicates clearly
that Paul's letters were ALSO
being circulated among the Jews, which is rather peculiar if the so-called "gospel of circumcision" as you call it was to be held separate from the gospel of grace which I maintain is the one and only gospel
In Post 104 you wrote: "What does 'pilgrims' or 'dispersion' have to do with it? Were they Jews or Gentiles?"
In Post 108, I showed irrefragably, with Scripture, that Peter wrote to Jews.
Yes you did, but the original question
was posed in posted in post 100
. All you had to do was answer "Jews" or "gentiles" (or both but that would have defeated your argument I guess). But instead your response was:
"Peter wrote to the pilgrims of the dispersion or
Which I found a little confusing. You also never
gave me an answer as to what "pilgrims" or "dispersion" had to do with the question I posed.
But OK, after all the irrelevancies surrouding this particular question you finally admitted that Peter wrote to the Jews. But as I said, it doesn't matter which answer you choose, it proves that you are incorrct about the existence of multiple gospels. If Peter wrote to the gentiles then that would prove you wrong. If Peter wrote to a mixture of Jews and gentiles then that would prove you wrong. And finally if, as you correctly maintain, Peter wrote to the Jews, then why does he not only indicate that Paul's letters were being curculated among the Jews
, but also supports them by saying:
"His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."
In other words he is verifying to the Jews
that Paul's writings are on the same level as scripture
! He makes no mention of the fact that Paul's gospel did not apply to them, and neither does Paul indicate in any of his writings that the gospel truths that were revealed to him were only applicable to gentiles.
Your Post 118: You posted to me, after all my answers to you with Scripture: "Your entire post is a gigantic strawman," and then you changed the subject
No Teejay I did NOT
change the subject! In fact I tried to re-establish
the subject in that very post:
"I told you quite clearly that what we were discussing here is the existance of multiple gospels
If you did not want to know to whom Peter wrote his letters, then why in the world did you ask me?????????????????????????
I asked you because I was trying to get some kind of admission from you, because I have had enough of your dodging. I want you
to understand how ridiculous your position is, and I cannot do so unless you clearly tell me what YOU
believe about Peter's letters. I most certainly didn't ask you the question because I was trying to get some condescending answer from you as to whom I though he was writing.
Now, you have gone into some detail about the question you (after a certain amount of equivocation) finally answered. But what about the questions that you didn't answer
? Are you thowing out smokescreens in order to avoid them???
I can't possibly dialogue with you.
I find this TOTALY
amazing. You claim that you "cannot dialogue with me". And in the very next post you suggest ME
, of all people, as some kind of opponent in a debate that would undoubtedly be spiced with evasive and totally frustrating tactics that I think should never
be used by anyone claiming to be a Christian!
I haven't even mentioned
the OSAS debate! I have only touched on the subject of multiple gospels and after quite a number of posts I can't even get you to answer a few questions and admit that you are wrong.
What would anyone hope to get out of a debate with you concerning something as complex and slippery as is the OSAS debate?
You need to change your attitude, show some respect towards those who are debating you, and loose the dishonest tactics.