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  1. dmwessel

    Purpose Of This Forum

    Again, where in that post of scripture verses can you see any hint of Darwin? I supposed that you would be happy (and amazed) to see the way in which God's word (line upon line, precept upon precept) explains everything so clearly! Did you know that wisdom was the pearl of great price? It's not at all evident by general reading that God actually hid the real meanings. We can however, unravel them if we use this method. We don't have to interpret - God interprets everything for us, which is the better way because it brings glory to him and keeps us from spiritual error.
  2. dmwessel

    six days

    The Bible uses a method of confirming to establish (set in stone) doctrine, not Hebrew or Greek meanings: "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established." (Matt. 18:6) "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." (2 Cor. 13:1) You can find more variations of 'two or three witnesses' in the N.T. and the O.T. also. The witnesses (I'm not Jehovah's Witness by the way) however, can only be 'God's words' because only they are infallible. Therefore, in order to establish a Biblical truth you need to confirm it with Biblical witnesses (two or three). "Cursed be he that confirms not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen. (Deut. 27:26) We must not go anywhere else but 'to the scriptures' and the scriptures themselves will explain the meanings for us. To do anything else is called the 'commandments of men' and will cause confusion. I was following the Biblical method for interpreting, you were not!
  3. dmwessel

    An An Inconvenient Truth?

    Initially man was a soul (Gen. 2:7). soul = the animal sentiment principle only/a breathing creature It was only when God put man into the garden (Gen. 2:8) that man got 'God's image (spirit/higher consciousness/sixth sense, etc.)'. God's essence is spirit: "God is a Spirit" (John 4:24) spirit = (of heaven) immortal/eternal/supernatural/indestructable Which means that when man/animal entered the garden (Paradise) this creature got 'God's immortal/supernatural/indestructable spirit' attached to its already existing body. God actually gave man 'a part of Himself'. Because the spirit is eternal, it cannot die - therefore, we are part mortal (body) and part immortal (spirit). When the body dies, it goes back to dust (that it came from) and our supernatural spirit returns to the immortal realm (to God) - either to Hades to await the judgment or to Paradise: "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Eccl. 12:7)
  4. dmwessel

    An An Inconvenient Truth?

    It is ambiguous but only because the meaning is hidden, as all of God's treasure. "And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God." (Luke 6:20) The above verse only mentions 'you poor' - which seems to suggest the financially destitute. Another verse however, clarifies: "Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached." What is it we're supposed to give to the poor - preach the gospel to them. However, another verse has this to say: "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." (Matt. 5:3) Poor (meek) is referring to a state of one's spirit as only the poor in spirit receive the words of truth (the gospel). In other words it's a spiritual condition. When Jesus instructed the rich young ruler (Luke 18:22) to 'sell all that you have and give to the poor', He was telling him to preach the gospel to the poor in spirit. Jesus was telling the rich young ruler to 'sell his knowledge of what he thought God was like' and 'buy the truth' . Then having the truth (the gospel) he could then share it with 'the poor in spirit' (for the poor in spirit will recognize truth when it is shown to them). The young man thought Jesus wanted 'works of the law (give away his riches)' and went away sad, completely missing the intent of Jesus' words and Jesus did not enlighten him. "Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding." (Prov. 23:23)
  5. dmwessel

    Purpose Of This Forum

    What's a TE? I strictly quoted the Bible! How on earth did you get anything, Darwin, out of that!! Are you out of your mind! If you did not see it, I was showing how the Bible is amazing because it's self-interpreting. I'm completely baffled because I said nothing at all about Darwin, neither is there anything in that quote that even hints of it... This situation reminds me of when Jesus quoted scripture to the scribes and teachers of the law and they would twist the meanings.
  6. dmwessel

    six days

    What was the word that Jesus used to refer to the scholars of his day!! There's nothing to check out. Gen. 1 and Gen. 2:4 cannot be contradictions because God would never contradict Himself. Gen. 2:4 clarifies that the word day is not meant as a literal 24 hr period.
  7. dmwessel

    An An Inconvenient Truth?

    You said: "None of this was accidental, but all planned and with purpose." In effect you were saying that it is God that creates some babies without a brain, or spinal chord, or eyes. God is not the author of such things. Of course it's fallen, Satan is the god of this world. If you believe that God created this mess and then tempts us by putting us into horrible situations, then I fear for your soul. "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James 1:13)
  8. dmwessel

    six days

    I'm not arguing that 'yom' means a 24 hr day. I'm arguing that while Gen. 1 uses days (as in 6) for creation, Gen. 2:4 says 'day', and uses it in the context of 'generations'. So then day in Gen. 2:4 means generations but how many generations? If creation happened in six, 24 hr days, then Gen. 2:4 would have said the same thing but instead, 2:4 refers to creation happening on one day, which meant 'generations'. This was not one 24 hr day and even if it was it still debunks the idea of a 6 day creation!
  9. dmwessel

    An An Inconvenient Truth?

    Are you then saying that God intentionally causes people to be born with awful deformities, or that He places certain people in debilitating poverty so they must live in horrible conditions with hardly any food, and many die from starvation at a young age? Or that God places some people in situations where they will be abused? If you say it was not accidental then you are really saying that God is partial to some, who live in relative or better, comfort, which means that He must hate the others to put them in those awful situations!
  10. dmwessel

    An An Inconvenient Truth?

    We are nothing more than a biological accident who happens (through no deserving of our own) to have God's spirit. And the only reason we have that is because Adam got God's image when he entered the garden (Gen. 2:8) and passed it on, because the spirit is eternal. God is not the author of this creation, if He were it would be perfect as God is. As it stands it's hardly perfect (a large part of the world lives in extreme poverty with no chance of changing their condition, wars, disease, etc.) and God is strangely absent. There's more wrong with it than right as the law of nature is 'the strong survive'. Satan is the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4, John 8:23) and that's the reason why it's so messed up. Jesus is in Paradise ("Today you will be with me in Paradise", Luke 23:43) and when He visits earth, He does so through the spirits of those who are poor in spirit.
  11. dmwessel

    A Challenge To Evolutionists.

    If that were true, dinosaurs would still be around. Conditions on earth at a certain period of time encouraged the growth of unusually large animals but that time has long since passed and, lucky for us, not returned. Climate conditions, food availability and other factors influence which direction nature takes.
  12. dmwessel

    A Challenge To Evolutionists.

    The idea behind evolution is there was a period of time on earth (a short duration of the right conditions) that sparked the evolutionary changes in humans. That period of time has long since gone (and has not come again), and that's why we don't see chimps in various stages of change today.
  13. dmwessel

    six days

    If you were correct then Gen. 2:4 would have used the word days instead of singular, day. And Genesis is only a very brief overview of possibly billions of years.
  14. dmwessel

    six days

    As you say, generation(s) means 'more than one day'! Since the topic of the thread was 'a literal 6 days' (and one I presumed you agreed with) I was simply stating that it could not have been a literal 6 days but really means 'generations' (and who knows how long the word generations is referring to). So then you don't believe in a literal 6 day interpretation?
  15. The gospel's all show that Jesus' dead body was wrapped with strips of cloth but His head and a type of hood over it: "Then comes Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and sees the linen clothes lie, And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself." (John 20:6-7) "Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves." (Luke 24:12) If it was a single cloth, it would say 'cloth' not 'clothes'. And it was the custom of the Jews at the time to 'wrap' dead bodies in 'strips' of linen that had been saturated in sweet ointments to keep the body from smelling foul.
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