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  1. I think the concept of wee green/grey men is all fiction mate. The type of fiction for entertainment and turning a profit. Deception it is not. :yoda:


    I doubt any astrobiologists ( awesome career, what I'm aiming for  :D  ) expect to find anything remotely humanoid. They're looking for possible life on the scale of single cells or just markers indicating organic chemistry. 



    That said, I'm fairly certain Mars Attacks was a documentary. About the 50s.

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  2. Pi said


    Based on the history of the craft of the likes of David Copperfield, Chris Angel, and Dynamo I believe a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted.



    Another good case study would be British illusionist Darren Brown.

    He has performed some of the best tricks I've ever seen (and is probably my favourite entertainer) and openly admits it's all a trick based on showmanship and often debunks his own routines afterwards.


    I'd particularly recommend looking into the time he went to America and convinced many top psychics and mediums he also had those abilities then admitted it was all a trick. Very incredible.

  3. This would more refer to the Philology department.

    Take a look at ancient Greek, Latin, Celtic, Old-Saxon, Norse language. Their grammar tends to be more complex and the vocabulary more rich.

    Martin Heidegger demonstrated this e.g. in "Einfuehrung in die Metaphysik" - Introduction to Metaphysics.

    He demonstrates that the word Being had first many different words used for it, which is demonstrated with the various forms of the word (am, are, is - was, were, will be, etc. ) and in German (bin, bist, ist, sind seid) he contrasts to the word Greek word of Physics. The conclusion is that the present Indogermanic languages are a refragmentation of an earlier, far more complex Proto-Indogermanic language who lost many words and nuances of grammar after the people distributed (or did they distribute they had their Logos (Word thinking) confounded as well?).


    Yes but in languages which are more complex in one aspect, such as the verbal endings in the likes of Latin which you mentioned will be simpler in other aspects.


    There's actually a decent article on it on AUG here https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/is-there-any-such-thing-as-a-primitive-language/


    Or any one of these articles from a Google search https://www.google.co.uk/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-h3g-gb&source=android-browser&q=is+there+such+a+thing+as+a+primitive+language&gfe_rd=cr&ei=eotcV-moKPLU8genhaRQ



    I know I'm not supposed to let the links do the talking but I can only post from my phone these days and I'm definitely NOT debating anyway, just an interesting wee side conversation. So hopefully I'll get away with it. :P


    The way complexity in language systems work is there is a balancing point between ease of delivery and ease of reception. Each can neither be too complex or too simple otherwise communication breaks down .



    I'll bookmark this post so when I eventually get home and to my laptop we can continue talking about it, even if it's through the private message function as no doubt the topic will have shifted dramatically by then.

  4. Do you mean the ancient greek computer?




    It's called the antikythera mechanism. A very intelligent contraption that's for sure.


    No, I meant about languages being more complex in the past. It's a pretty much universally known concept in linguistics that there is no such thing as a simple "me tarzan, you Jane" style language usually attributed to stone age technology level tribes.

    When a language is particularly complex in one area of grammar or syntax, it is usually compensated by simplicity in another.

    And historical linguists having first centuries been trying as best they can to recreate ancient languages, such as proto Indo-European and they have come across no evidence to suggest it was more or less complex than languages of today.


    And yup, I'm vaguely familiar with the antikythera mechanism, I did a fair bit of reading on them around.....ten years ago now, so also a bit fuzzy. Very interesting and good find.

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  5. I've seen the ISS many times, it's very bright. As a bit of an amateur astronomer, I've even tried taking a picture of it, though the result was not impressive, because I think my focussing was slightly off. Its a bit tricky because you've got to manually aim the scope at the ISS while it rapidly tracks across the sky while taking a video via a camera attachment in the eyepiece socket. Due to the very small field of view at high magnification the resulting video is mostly blank except for fleeting frames (maybe a dozen or so out of couple thousand). I then use various software to extract the good frames and then stack them all together into one image. I think I will try again in a few days when there is a decent pass and perhaps post on here if its good enough. I will look forward to Enoch claiming that I must be part of the Grand Conspiracy.


    I intend to get into a bit of amateur astronomy myself. There's a few associations for it in the area I've just moved to. Apparently you can also sometimes see the northern lights too which will be quite cool.

  6. Actually No, it's your Head-Space and Timing.


    Ya see sir, Errr...


    Enoch 2021: Many years ago, I thought I ferreted out the lions share of THE LIES... then @ the request of friends, I dropped it.


    Keysi: What is the reason for all these lies, do you think?


    Enoch 2021: Ahhh, well in this particular case.... if the Earth is a Circle "Flat" and not spinning, then --- If you're saying there is No God....You sorta have some Problems, REAL FAST!! :kaffeetrinker: Dont'cha Think ?



    THEN, you asked a Different Question:


    Keysi: Why an earth tat is a flat disc as you suggest would require a god any more than a spherical one.


    Enoch2021: It wouldn't.



    Ya see sir, your second attempt to Quibble (Fallacy) was a General Question: why would either require "A god".... as opposed to the first, because I was expressly speaking to "THE GOD". Ergo...either scenario would be good, i.e., "THE GOD" could do anything HE wished....so it makes no difference. Hence my retort... "It Wouldn't".


    However, in the first case I was Specifically Speaking (SEE: "In this Particular Case...") to "THE GOD" (Jesus Christ, because you are well aware I'm a Christian ) where HE said EXACTLY what HE did. Voila


    Ergo, your feeble attempt to catch me in your incoherent little "Trap" has kinda blown up in your face. :shock:



    Oy Vey Sir


    Do you have a coherent substantive argument regarding the facts of the case in lieu of nonsensical tangled webs of incoherent Quibbling (Fallacy) self-induced Back-Fires ?




    Utter nonsense and you're taking a bit of a strange, combative attitude with me for not reason. I was not saying you were wrong, I was asking why you were putting forth the arguments that you were.


    Please bear with me here as copy and quote doesn't work so well on a phone.


    You claimed to be uncovering and blowing all the lies.


    I asked why secular science and governments etc would lie.


    You said because they are under the influence of satan/they don't want people to know about your god.


    I asked why deceiving about the shape of the earth would suit their purposes, to which you replied -


    Ahhh, well in this particular case.... if the Earth is a Circle "Flat" and not spinning, then --- If you're saying there is No God....You sorta have some Problems, REAL FAST!! :kaffeetrinker:



    It's all their if you want to go back and read over it.


    All I asked for was an explanation WHY this is the case. Your speed to jump down my throat and think I was trying to trap you is rather bizarre and unfounded.


    This has happened many times on this board, for some reason several people here take a question as an attack on them. Quite weird.


    At least goku managed to explain your argument when you clearly didn't have the ability to and chose to become both defensive and rather offensive at the same time.

  7. Huh? :think:


    Don't remember doing that. Just thought you hadn't thought much about designer-reasons for a planet rather than a flat-earth. I know some of those reasons are obvious of course such as gravity. I mean I know you know there are people down under, standing upside down relative to us, but I say that because we tend to forget what a good design that is. It seems simple but is it? I mean, if God wants a period of one day what is the best way to do it? Have us circle a sun? circular systems are tremendously good design because cycles prevent stop/start issues. Reproduction for example, stops God from having to come down each time a new animal is needed. The best way to have a day and night is have a ball (the earth) spin around a sun. All of these problems are like killing two birds with one stone, only God has killed many birds with one stone.

    It's OK mate I was joking, I don't think when I hit edit it actually went through till just now.

  8. Ahhh, well in this particular case.... if the Earth is a Circle "Flat" and not spinning, then --- If you're saying there is No God....You sorta have some Problems, REAL FAST!! :kaffeetrinker:


    Dont'cha Think ?




    Ah that's what I thought. Secular science/mainstream science/atheists/whatever are in a conspiracy to cover up that there must be a God. And no doubt part of your theory they all know it is the Christian God.


    So my next question is, if Secular science/mainstream science/atheists/whatever really are attempting to cover up you God, what's in it for them? I mean really, to cover up God they must know and acknowledge it exists and must know the price for their rebellion and trying to recruit innocent souls to their rebellion through fake science is a one way ticket to the Even Deeper South ( think Little Nicky).


    Why do they go to all the trouble of making up all those fake sciences, university courses, research institutions etc just for the reward of hell when they know God actually does exist, resistance is futile so they might as well be sycophantic and have the chance of heavy and His glory etc.


    That's my main question really.


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