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rico posted a topic in General ConversationThis is about a proof that's already been proven. Darwin Evo. Wrong: Systems Require Information To Be, Function I'll post a definition of information: meaningful data that requires a mind and doesn't physically exist. Also see numbers. What got me thinking about this was: DNA is often called the blueprint of life. But this is wrong in some ways. As a person who studies and interacts with computers, I tried to think of it as the source code of life, or the operating system. It's more complicated and does more than that, we know now... Thinking of 1.Stephen meyers Signature In The Cell (only read to/around chapter 7, have heard online speeches and lectures, such as some on kgov rsr) and and Dr. Gitts info and lectures (one was free to read on Answers and Genesis Website): In the Beginning was information. (He also has a newer book/books) Conclusions 1.a all matter requires depends on, and uses information 1b. information can only exist if there is a mind to interpret it. Information is a product of intelligence; also see imagination, keyword image. Thery/idea 2. Matter that we humans create cannot exist interact/without information. Source: computer programming classes. *Note:Also made objects with help in a woodworking class. This too, required information and knowledge first, before creating. A blueprint never explains how a building functions,afaik; like a patent explains how something works... Also can study f(x)=xy, and systems biology, see definition. But they will probably only stick to Naturalism philosophy, if they oppose intelligence, or 'a creator' -Another thought/model taken from a bible verse: inventions/creations by humans require: skill,ability, and knowledge. We've read about animals and plants solving problems too in the news.
rico posted a topic in Creation vs EvolutionFact: Atheist Creation stories by naturalism don't work. This was discussed on a creation magazine live of Canada. If you look at secular astronomy such as the planetesimal theory and Miller/Urey experiment. In the context of only natural experiments the Miller/Urey experiment experiment would not count because they used an intelligent supernatural (beyond nature) agent -- themselves. Dawkins Weasel program has been brought up. but they bring in things that require intelligence - the monkey : reference (first paragraph,April,15, 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_program ) For astronomy planetessimals are discussed. What you aren't being Told about astronomy Vol. 1 DVD was helpful to quickly understand natural ideas for origins. Stephen Hawking talks about gravity in 'The Grand Design' the website I'm listing also refutes it , (reference website: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/stephen-hawking-and-god) Feel free to refute the thesis above. Thanks for your time. I wish to end the intro with Genesis 1:1. In the beginning God created heaven and earth.